Open Carry question???

[Average Joe American]

Ok so Open Carry has been discussed alot here. I was wondering if an OC'er got into his car to leave, do they have to transport the firearm differently once inside a vehicle? (gun empty and ammo in the trunk? or vice versa)

Sorry if this is a dumb question. I dont live in Ca. For the record I am not a big fan of OC. I like CCW better but I know its dang near impossible for the average Joe in Ca. to get one.

[lgm118icbm]

As long as the weapon remains unconcealed, then you don't need to do anything differently. Just avoid driving through school zones.

[car15]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=325953

From this I take it alittle more confusing.

[Cyc Wid It]

You pretty much have to away from civilization to avoid all the school zones.

[jtmkinsd]

It takes a lot of very careful planning to properly exercise the right of open carry. I really would advise against it unless you are with a group who's taken the time to weed out the details of where you can't go. Really you shouldn't do it without at least 1 or 2 others if only to have someone for documentation purposes. Just think about why you're doing it, are you going to help or hurt the cause, and if you get caught where you shouldn't be, is it worth the possible consequences?

[Average Joe American]

Oh I fully discourage OC for most folks. I am 100% for CCW. Less drama for both citizen and LEO's. I think OC causes more harm than good in California. Non gun folks freak out and trump up a call to 911 that there is a MWAG. Cops show up ready to take out an active shooter. Orders are given to keep hands up and to show me your waistline and to get on the ground...all at once by multiple officers...and BAM, you have a dead OC'er who didnt follow the right command. (this just happend at a Vegas Costco where OC & CCW is actually common in Nevada.)

OCing in Ca. is a ticking time bomb of unfortunate events just waiting to line up just right regardless of it being legal.

I was just curious if you can OC in a vehicle in Ca. Because I know you can OC in a vehicle in Nevada.

[NiteQwill]

Gun must be unloaded in car. The gun and ammo can be next to each other, unless passing through a GFSZ (then it must be locked).

OC is legal in Nevada if you have a CCW. Otherwise, it can't be on your person because the seatbelt constitutes being "concealed."

[E Pluribus Unum]

OC is legal in Nevada if you have a CCW. Otherwise, it can't be on your person because the seatbelt constitutes being "concealed."

Huh?? In Nevada, you can carry a concealed weapon in your vehicle as long as it is not on your person, or in personal baggage carried on your person (like a purse, or briefcase).

You can also open carry the firearm with your vehicle. The only thing that is a no-no is conealed carry on your person. Under your seat, in your glove box, et cetera is fine. Loaded too.... LOADED open carry is the law in Nevada... and loaded concealed weapons in a vehicle is ok (not on the person) unless hunting.

[NiteQwill]

Huh?? In Nevada, you can carry a concealed weapon in your vehicle as long as it is not on your person, or in personal baggage carried on your person (like a purse, or briefcase).

You can also open carry the firearm with your vehicle. The only thing that is a no-no is conealed carry on your person. Under your seat, in your glove box, et cetera is fine. Loaded too.... LOADED open carry is the law in Nevada... and loaded concealed weapons in a vehicle is ok (not on the person) unless hunting.

You're correct. I was typing too fast... Yes, OC is legal in NV and like you said, only legal to carry on person in the car if you have a CCW (which is what I originally meant). Doh.

I'm a NV resident /w a CCW operating on only 4 hours of sleep in the last 2 days...

Just to add, loaded longarms are a no-go in NV.... loaded being no round in the chamber. Loaded magazine in weapon is ok.

[E Pluribus Unum]

You're correct. I was typing too fast... Yes, OC is legal in NV and like you said, only legal to carry on person in the car if you have a CCW (which is what I originally meant). Doh.

I'm a NV resident /w a CCW operating on only 4 hours of sleep in the last 2 days...

Just to add, loaded longarms are a no-go in NV.... loaded being no round in the chamber. Loaded magazine in weapon is ok.

No prollem my fren!

A good friend of mine is a LEO in Nevada and we visit him often. I made sure to get the skinny on gun laws while there.

[cmth]

Yes, OC is legal in NV and like you said, only legal to carry on person in the car if you have a CCW

Nonsense. You keep saying "to carry on your person", which is indistinct. CCW is required only if the firearm is concealed on your person. If you're walking around OC, and you get into your car, the gun does not automatically become concealed. There is a NV AG opinion which states that the firearm only becomes concealed if it's hidden under clothing or in a bag or case that the person is carrying. Open carry in a belt holster is not concealed, even if it's partially obscured by a seatbelt, or a door or center console. You can have a gun anywhere in the vehicle, in plain view or hidden, without it being a crime. It's only a crime to conceal (e.g. under clothing) on your person. Read the NV open carry pamphlet.

http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?45415-Nevada-(Open)-Carry-Pamphlet

[NiteQwill]

cmth, you only proved me right. Reread the link you posted. Like I said, you cannot carry on your person, in a vehicle, without a CCW.

Edit: cmth, upon further reading, I can see where you are right. I left my original post above for clarity purposes (I'm not afraid to be wrong, sometimes ). However, as is all things, my recent renewal class, the very same question was asked (taught by 2 NHP officers). Take it with a grain of salt, but both stated they will initiate an arrest if you have no CCW and are carrying (in all senses: OPEN CARRYING, meaning not concealed if one were to step out of the vehicle) on your person in a vehicle. YMMV.

[Army]

OK:
UNloaded open carry is legal in CA while driving. You can carry it in a holster, or leave it on the dash or seat.....ONLY if it remains uncovered. Any part getting covered is considered concealed. A holster is NOT considered concealed.

There are no ammo requirements other than it cannot be in a position to be fired (no filled magazine in the well--especially none in the chamber, no rounds in the cylinder) Filled magazines openly carried is fine (there is some question on pocket carry of filled magazines.....so don't). Loose ammo can be carried by itself in any manner, or in speed-loaders.

The ONLY caveat is while passing through 1000' of a K-12 school. The HANDGUN must be in a locked container (although there is no description of a container, common sense says a hard case would be good, with a any sort of keyed or combo lock) Ammo can still be carried or transported in any manner you see fit (other than inside the gun). California law does NOT address long guns in their 1000' law, but Federal law DOES cover them, although the Constitutionality of the Federal law has been in question for a while now.

So, yes, UNloaded Open Carry is legal in CA.

Loaded carry is only possible in certain unincorporated areas that allow discharge of firearms, and certain hunting and fishing situations.

[Decoligny]

Gun must be unloaded in car. The gun and ammo can be next to each other, unless passing through a GFSZ (then it must be locked).

OC is legal in Nevada if you have a CCW. Otherwise, it can't be on your person because the seatbelt constitutes being "concealed."

Unless you are talking only about OC in a car, then I call "Absolute BS."

Nevada is an Open Carry State. You do not need to have a CCW to Open Carry a loaded handgun.

[NiteQwill]

Unless you are talking only about OC in a car, then I call "Absolute BS."

Nevada is an Open Carry State. You do not need to have a CCW to Open Carry a loaded handgun.

Read the posts after. My response was in regards to the OP's "OC in Nevada." Yes you can OC in NV but there are restrictions when it comes to traveling in a vehicle (minus CCW).

On hot days, yes, I OC in NV.