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  • #16
    Mac Attack
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 2126

    As others have stated, stick to a full sized or commander length 1911. Shooting wise, there really is no difference. I have carried both for years and have no problem carrying a full sized 1911. I personally would go with a full sized for your first 1911.

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    • #17
      faterikcartman
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 1404

      Originally posted by supermario
      Does the reliability decrease as the size gets smaller?
      Yes, that is my understanding.
      I am not your lawyer. I am not giving you or anyone else who reads my posts legal advice. I am making off-the-cuff comments that may or may not be accurate and are personal, not professional, opinion. If you think you need a lawyer please retain a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction. Your local bar association may be able to help if you need a referral.

      Two Weeks!: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-59936.html

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      • #18
        OldLincoln
        Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 133

        Piecing it together, it looks like you shot a Colt model 70 Commander. Would that be the Lightweight Commander (serial # begins with CLW) with the alloy frame? It is quite a bit lighter (I think about a pound) than the all steel versions so be sure what you like is what you buy.

        The alloy frame is a touchy in that it is annodized leaving a very thin hard surface. You should not use +P ammo nor polish the feed ramp.

        I have one that I really like and shoots very nicely. I just don't want you to be surprised and disappointed.

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        • #19
          M. D. Van Norman
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2002
          • 4168

          The Colt Commander has the same grip size/length as the Government Model. The overall grip size can also be modified by using different stocks and/or mainspring housings.
          Matthew D. Van Norman
          Dancing Giant Sales | Licensed Firearms Dealer | Rainier, WA

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          • #20
            Old4eyes
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 1751

            Here is one fellow's view of what a 1911 should be for reliability:
            Send Lawyers, Guns and Money - On second thought, hold the Lawyers.

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            • #21
              JTROKS
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2007
              • 13093

              Originally posted by redcliff
              It's generally accepted that the shorter 1911's are slightly less reliable than the government model type 1911's, and that the reliability goes down as you decrease the length of the slide.

              This is not to say that Commander's and Officer's can't be reliable, just that they will show problems earlier as parts or magazines wear out of spec. The Commander slide has .200 less travel than a Gov. slide which effects timing issues in the feeding and ejection phases of firing.

              Personally the Commander size is one of my favorites, but be aware everything needs to be kept "right" with extractor tension, spring replacement, magazines and ammo selection.
              +1 on what redcliff said. The shorter the slide the lighter it becomes, plus the load of the recoil spring(s) is definitely heavier than the Gov't and Commander model so the slide travels faster during recoil and return to battery. The recoil is greater and it will be snappier than its' bigger brothers. An officer's model or even the shorter versions is not a gun you would shoot 200 rounds every weekend unless you're shooting in some subcompact division in a club match. Although my smallest 1911 is a Colt 1991A1 Commander, the officer's and other ultra compact 1911s are still fun to shoot.

              The wise man said just find your place
              In the eye of the storm
              Seek the roses along the way
              Just beware of the thorns...
              K. Meine

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              • #22
                supermario
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 4569

                Originally posted by OldLincoln
                Piecing it together, it looks like you shot a Colt model 70 Commander. Would that be the Lightweight Commander (serial # begins with CLW) with the alloy frame? It is quite a bit lighter (I think about a pound) than the all steel versions so be sure what you like is what you buy.

                The alloy frame is a touchy in that it is annodized leaving a very thin hard surface. You should not use +P ammo nor polish the feed ramp.

                I have one that I really like and shoots very nicely. I just don't want you to be surprised and disappointed.
                Actually i shot a fullsize 70s series Colt. I thought it was very smooth. I probably should buy the fullsize but i really like the commander size for carry.

                On a side note, does anybody know if they make the RIA in 2tone/tactical? I have searched online but no luck. It seems the 2tone only comes in fullsize? What do you guys know about those options?

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