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  • The DRis
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 593

    Springfield TRP model not on Roster?

    I'm looking for this model handgun:

    PC9105LP

    I know for a fact I have seen it here in a gunshop in SoCal. But when I was searching gunbroker the shipper says the box says "Not for CA Sale". I checked the list and that model number is not on it. What's the deal?
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    faterikcartman
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2006
    • 1404

    PC9105LCA with and without ambidextrous safety is on the list. Is that what you saw in the gun store? Many people see Wilson, for just one example, CQBs on Gunbroker, but it has to be the exact model number that Wilson submitted for approval. I haven't looked closely, but my guess is you pay a little more for the California model for probably not much, if any, more gun. Maybe as a way to recoup the costs of submitting for testing and getting on the roster? Also, you'll probably find many guns on Gunbroker that ARE on the list, yet the seller still won't sell to you here. Good luck.
    I am not your lawyer. I am not giving you or anyone else who reads my posts legal advice. I am making off-the-cuff comments that may or may not be accurate and are personal, not professional, opinion. If you think you need a lawyer please retain a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction. Your local bar association may be able to help if you need a referral.

    Two Weeks!: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-59936.html

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    • #3
      The DRis
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 593

      No, it wasn't the full length rail.

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      • #4
        faterikcartman
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 1404

        Originally posted by The DRis
        No, it wasn't the full length rail.
        Was it for sale to the general public, or to law enforcement only? Cops don't need "safe guns" in this state. Or maybe consignment?

        I am not your lawyer. I am not giving you or anyone else who reads my posts legal advice. I am making off-the-cuff comments that may or may not be accurate and are personal, not professional, opinion. If you think you need a lawyer please retain a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction. Your local bar association may be able to help if you need a referral.

        Two Weeks!: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-59936.html

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        • #5
          jtmkinsd
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 2352

          PC9105LCA is the only TRP on the list and therefore is the only one you can have shipped in...the one you saw may have mistakenly been shipped in (someone didn't know any better), or someone owned it and gave it to the shop to sell. Those are just guesses on my part.
          Originally posted by orangeglo
          Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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          • #6
            NiteQwill
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2007
            • 6368

            Remove the "P" at the end. P is for package.

            The fate of the wounded rest in the hands of the ones who apply the first dressing.

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            • #7
              faterikcartman
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 1404

              Originally posted by NiteQwill
              Remove the "P" at the end. P is for package.
              Yes, but what's left still is not on the roster.
              I am not your lawyer. I am not giving you or anyone else who reads my posts legal advice. I am making off-the-cuff comments that may or may not be accurate and are personal, not professional, opinion. If you think you need a lawyer please retain a qualified attorney in your jurisdiction. Your local bar association may be able to help if you need a referral.

              Two Weeks!: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...p/t-59936.html

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              • #8
                jtmkinsd
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 2352

                Originally posted by NiteQwill
                Remove the "P" at the end. P is for package.
                Found this on M1911.org:

                "You would need to have your dealer order the PC9105LCA and be sure they know it must have the full size rail as this is the only version legal for CA in the TRP operator. Since we kept the same part number for both models we added CA so that we knew which model was which."

                Have a great day!
                Dawn Oleson
                Range Program Coordinator/
                Dealer Assistance & Response Team
                Springfield, Inc.
                dawn@springfield-armory.com

                I think this covers it pretty well...any questions there is the email...lol

                Any other ones you see for sale in CA are ones that slipped through the cracks or are privately owned for sale by the dealer.
                Originally posted by orangeglo
                Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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                • #9
                  10001110101
                  Junior Member
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 64

                  There is the one without any rail that is on the Cali list (PC9108L), so the "only version legal for CA" isn't quite accurate.
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                  • #10
                    Jerry X
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 708

                    Originally posted by NiteQwill
                    Remove the "P" at the end. P is for package.
                    Correct. P stands for package which includes a holster and magazine pouch. All current TRP have the P at the end. Most FFL that sells the TRP runs it without the P............... if you can find one.
                    Last edited by Jerry X; 09-04-2010, 10:39 PM.

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                    • #11
                      jtmkinsd
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 2352

                      Originally posted by 10001110101
                      There is the one without any rail that is on the Cali list (PC9108L), so the "only version legal for CA" isn't quite accurate.
                      Yes that's true, the OP asked about and the nice lady from Springfield was talking about the 9105 though and that's what I was responding to. TRP and TRP Operator are different models...TRP Operator is 9105L...TRP is 9108L
                      Last edited by jtmkinsd; 09-05-2010, 12:30 AM.
                      Originally posted by orangeglo
                      Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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                      • #12
                        jtmkinsd
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 2352

                        PC9105L:

                        Weight: 45 ozs.
                        Frame: Forged Steel with Integral Accessory
                        Rail, Black Armory Kote
                        Slide: Forged Steel, Black Armory Kote
                        Recoil System: 1 Piece Full Length Guide Rod
                        with Reverse Recoil Spring Plug
                        Height: 5.7”
                        Length: 8.5”
                        Trigger: Long Aluminum Match Grade, 4.5 - 5 lbs.
                        Magazines: 2 - 7 Round, Stainless Steel with
                        Slam Pad
                        Grips: G10 Composite
                        Sights: Low Profile Adjustable Rear, Dovetail
                        Front, Tritium 3 - Dot
                        Barrel: 5” Stainless Steel Match Grade, Bull
                        Caliber: .45ACP
                        Features: Wide-Mouth Magazine Well; Tuned Trigger; Match Bull Bbl.; Checkered Front Strap; Light Rail

                        PC9108L:

                        Weight: 42 ozs.
                        Frame: Forged Steel, Black Armory Kote
                        Slide: Forged Steel, Black Armory Kote
                        Recoil System: 2 Piece Full Length Guide Rod
                        Height: 5.7”
                        Length: 8.5”
                        Trigger: Long Aluminum Match Grade, 4.5 - 5 lbs.
                        Magazines: 2 - 7 Round, Stainless Steel with
                        Slam Pad
                        Grips: G10 Composite
                        Sights: Fixed Low Profile Combat Rear,
                        Dovetail Front, Tritium 3 - Dot
                        Barrel: 5” Stainless Steel Match Grade Barrel
                        and Bushing
                        Caliber: .45ACP
                        Features: Wide-Mouth Magazine Well; Tuned Trigger; Match Bbl. and Bushing; Checkered Front Strap
                        Originally posted by orangeglo
                        Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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                        • #13
                          The DRis
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 593

                          So any LEO in the SoCal region that would like to FtF a NIB half railed TRP?

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                          • #14
                            wilshire1412
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 610

                            Has anyone seen a TRP of any variety for sale anywhere lately? I am looking but have noticed a shortage of Springfield 1911s in SoCal lately. I am thinking of the Stainless TRP or possibly the MC with the half railed frame.

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                            • #15
                              Jerry X
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 708

                              Originally posted by wilshire1412
                              Has anyone seen a TRP of any variety for sale anywhere lately? I am looking but have noticed a shortage of Springfield 1911s in SoCal lately. I am thinking of the Stainless TRP or possibly the MC with the half railed frame.
                              The TRP are very hard to find. There was a gunshop in North Cal that had a Stainless TRP for $1645.

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