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  • killmime1234
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1536

    My new ruger is disappointing...

    From what I've read, rugers are supposed to be darn near indestructible and eat anything you feed it.</exaggerated a little>

    In any case, my new P95 has less than 200 rounds through it and now it keeps failing to feed and/or failing to eject. At first it would fail to eject EVERY round, then after field stripping and giving it a decent blow/wipe (I was out in the woods without access to a kit) it began to mostly eject correctly and instead failed to feed EVERY round.

    So I took her back to my campsite and gave her a thorough cleaning and took it out the next day. This time, no failure to feeds but it did fail to eject about once per magazine (and never the same round # so I know it's not a magazine spring tension issue).

    The other thing I noticed is what appears to be rust! This is a gun that's less than four months old and has been kept in the same safe as two other guns that have no sign of rusting, probably because I have loads of silica gel pouches in there. The "rust" was coming out as a dirty-copper colored ooze from the safety/deocker. I cleaned it out as best I could but I'm not sure how to disassemble the safety assembly.

    The only common factor to all of this is new ammo. It's PMC 119Gr--admittedly poor quality ammo but it certainly isn't the worst. I haven't taken it out again since all these issues have started.

    Has anyone else had these issues or any good advice? I'm gonna try different ammo next time I go out to see if it improves.
    Last edited by killmime1234; 08-30-2010, 11:43 PM. Reason: grammar
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    ojisan
    Agent 86
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 11756

    I would try some quality ammo before thinking the gun has a problem.
    To remove the safety, pull the front of the extractor out away from the gun and slide it forward out of its groove.

    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
    I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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    • #3
      killmime1234
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1536

      Originally posted by ojisan
      I would try some quality ammo before thinking the gun has a problem.
      To remove the safety, pull the front of the extractor out away from the gun and slide it forward out of its groove.
      That was my other thought. After wading through PAGES of great reviews of the p95, I found a handful of negative reviews that almost exclusively involved the extractor. I try not to be one that jumps to hastily to conclusions such as that though, so that's why I figured I'd ask the more knowledgeable folks here on calguns.

      If I can figure out how to get the blasted thing apart, I'll post my findings. Thanks for the input.

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      • #4
        BigDogatPlay
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2007
        • 7362

        The dirty copper colored ooze is perhaps a mix of lube and machine oil left over from manufacturing. Give it a good cleaning in that area and you're likely good to go.

        A friend of mine has a P95 and after the first couple of mags it has run like a champ for him. I've fired it several times with no issues of any kind. It's been very durable, even after I had to manhandle it apart for him when he messed up the reassembly sequence after cleaning and wound up locking the slide assembly up tight on the frame. No movement front and just a tiny bit to the rear, enough so that I was able to eventually get it apart. Shot just fine after that ordeal.

        Have you considered your shooting technique / grip? I ask only because you list one pistol in your sig line. Held low on the handle or with a weak wristed technique nearly any semi-auto pistol can get finicky. If you aren't already at the top of the grip, get there. You also might try having a friend shoot it and see if it replicates.

        I usually do pretty good with PMC ammo, I'm still working my way through 1K of it in .40 bought before the Obama panic and not a single issue. You might try examining some of the ammo for overall length and appearance against other ball ammo. You might also try shooting a mag or two of it in a friends gun to compare performance.

        If the problems persist, even after you switch ammo then contact Ruger.
        -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

        Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

        Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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        • #5
          killmime1234
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 1536

          Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
          The dirty copper colored ooze is perhaps a mix of lube and machine oil left over from manufacturing. Give it a good cleaning in that area and you're likely good to go.

          A friend of mine has a P95 and after the first couple of mags it has run like a champ for him. I've fired it several times with no issues of any kind. It's been very durable, even after I had to manhandle it apart for him when he messed up the reassembly sequence after cleaning and wound up locking the slide assembly up tight on the frame. No movement front and just a tiny bit to the rear, enough so that I was able to eventually get it apart. Shot just fine after that ordeal.

          Have you considered your shooting technique / grip? I ask only because you list one pistol in your sig line. Held low on the handle or with a weak wristed technique nearly any semi-auto pistol can get finicky. If you aren't already at the top of the grip, get there. You also might try having a friend shoot it and see if it replicates.

          I usually do pretty good with PMC ammo, I'm still working my way through 1K of it in .40 bought before the Obama panic and not a single issue. You might try examining some of the ammo for overall length and appearance against other ball ammo. You might also try shooting a mag or two of it in a friends gun to compare performance.

          If the problems persist, even after you switch ammo then contact Ruger.
          I know it's not my grip because it was happening to other shooters who used it (that, and I have a girlfriend I take shooting so I know plenty about limp-wristing ).

          That's good to hear about the ooze though. I was really racking my brain trying to figure out how it could be rusting so badly in one single spot in a very dry climate.

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          • #6
            Greg-Dawg
            Banned
            • Oct 2006
            • 7793

            Sorry to hear about your troubles. Contact Ruger.

            Honestly, the only Ruger I'd own would be a GP100.

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            • #7
              five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34772

              I have a lot of rugers, they all function well

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              • #8
                morfeeis
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 7605

                Ll this sucks I have a p95 in ten dayjail as we speak/type, let us know how it turns out.......
                ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
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                • #9
                  forgiven
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2008
                  • 5214

                  Never owned any of the auto's, but all of my revolvers have been great. Good luck with your gun.

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                  • #10
                    KIDRR
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1266

                    I've had a P95 since ~1999 and 5000rounds later not one malfunction with the same two mags it came with. If I were you I'd sent it back to Ruger for inspection.
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                    • #11
                      gorenut
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 3072

                      Sorry to hear about your troubles. Contact Ruger.

                      Honestly, the only Ruger I'd own would be a GP100.
                      Ditto on this, and I do own one. Love it to death. Well, I wouldn't mind any Ruger revolver - just was never a fan of their semis. Ruger Minis are cool too, but I think they've gone up in price to the point where they don't see as worth it anymore.

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                      • #12
                        paul0660
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 15669

                        I would try some quality ammo
                        "eat/ digest anything" = reliability. This gun obviously has problems.
                        *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                        • #13
                          nazgulnarsil
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 250

                          Originally posted by ojisan
                          I would try some quality ammo before thinking the gun has a problem.
                          To remove the safety, pull the front of the extractor out away from the gun and slide it forward out of its groove.
                          there's no reason to expect a firearm to only feed high quality ammunition. a firearm that requires very tight tolerances to function has an underlying design issue.

                          obviously purpose built target shooting oriented firearms are different. general use guns should feed generic factory ammo.
                          The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists. -Hemingway

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                          • #14
                            J.D.Allen
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 2340

                            I had a p 95 for about 10 years before I sold it and I'm kicking myself for it now. I loved that gun. It was the most reliable thing I have ever fired. Your experience is quite surprising to me. Ruger has killer customer service though. If you contact them they'll make it right...try different ammo first but if it were an ammo problem it would surprise me because mine swallowed EVERYTHING I fed it without a hiccup

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                            • #15
                              arc
                              Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 204

                              I've got a blued ruger p90 (the .45 ACP version) and I had the same issue with rust/goop oozing out around the safety lever. I wiped it off and made sure my silica packs were good and it hasn't happened again.

                              It's been pretty reliable. It's eaten everything except some lead wadcutters a guy at the range loaned me. And very occasionally once I've gone through about a hundred rounds at the range it will refuse to fully feed the last round in a magazine. But if I then switch to a new mag it's good to go again. So my theory is that when the mags heat up they change shape a little and cause malfunctions.

                              Fortunately I believe this is a situation I would only ever encounter at the range.

                              Hope this helps.
                              -James

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