what is the best 1911 for 3k

[NiteQwill]

Mixwell has no dea what s/he is talking about. The cut is when you mentioned owning several guns with no safe, that's asking for trouble. It's quite obvious that you've never shot or ownd any high-value, custom 1911s.

[faterikcartman]

I don't get why you guys have elitist attitudes towards certain guns (except the true crap like hi-point, jennings etc..)

Really would it be that bad if he bought RIA 1911, shotgun, rifle and a gun safe for his cash flow ? I know he is talking about JUST a 1911 and I think it's stupid to spend 3k on a gun when you can get soo many more + ammo and a safe etc but I don't get bashing RIA because I hear nothing but good things about them and they're good quality.. I actually have an Armscor 1911 and the fit and finish on it is amazing, no rattle etc and the slide to frame fit is tighter than a jews wallet..

Taurus 1911's aren't even on the list so ya thats garbage.. From readings and videos I've heard (not personal experience) people say that there crappy so called RIA shoots better than their Kimber. If you really think about it there is no high quality gun smithing that's involved, all handguns are made by machines so precision is going to be there regardless on a 1911.. The 1911 is the most copied by diff manufact than any other gun.. I think these "cheap" companies that are producing them have the same specs as a Kimber personally.. You might argue that the metal is cheaper which is bull ish and I understand that some of the really high end guns have more detail in them but still if they both shoot just as accurate what the hell does it matter ? Reliability, which I think MOST 1911s are about on par with each other because they're made pretty much to the same spec as every other 1911 out there whether it be Taurus, Kimber, SA, RIA, Colt etc.. I think if you pay out the arse for a firearm based on its name is more of a joke than buying something with legit knowledge and good quality that isn't a Kimber or other higher end NAME.. Just my personal opinion so take it for what it's worth..


PS> Hell I know a lot of hi-point haters out there but from people that ACTUALLY own them I hear most of the time they shoot decent and are cheap for a gun.. More power to them but I wouldn't buy one unless it was my 1st handgun and I was REALLY strapped for cash..

Um, let me guess: You also think it's stupid to hook up with beautiful lithe women because they're high maintenance, so everyone should stick to fat ugly chicks because they try harder, etc.?

[Black Majik]

I don't get why you guys have elitist attitudes towards certain guns (except the true crap like hi-point, jennings etc..)

Really would it be that bad if he bought RIA 1911, shotgun, rifle and a gun safe for his cash flow ? I know he is talking about JUST a 1911 and I think it's stupid to spend 3k on a gun when you can get soo many more + ammo and a safe etc but I don't get bashing RIA because I hear nothing but good things about them and they're good quality.. I actually have an Armscor 1911 and the fit and finish on it is amazing, no rattle etc and the slide to frame fit is tighter than a jews wallet..

Taurus 1911's aren't even on the list so ya thats garbage.. From readings and videos I've heard (not personal experience) people say that there crappy so called RIA shoots better than their Kimber. If you really think about it there is no high quality gun smithing that's involved, all handguns are made by machines so precision is going to be there regardless on a 1911.. The 1911 is the most copied by diff manufact than any other gun.. I think these "cheap" companies that are producing them have the same specs as a Kimber personally.. You might argue that the metal is cheaper which is bull ish and I understand that some of the really high end guns have more detail in them but still if they both shoot just as accurate what the hell does it matter ? Reliability, which I think MOST 1911s are about on par with each other because they're made pretty much to the same spec as every other 1911 out there whether it be Taurus, Kimber, SA, RIA, Colt etc.. I think if you pay out the arse for a firearm based on its name is more of a joke than buying something with legit knowledge and good quality that isn't a Kimber or other higher end NAME.. Just my personal opinion so take it for what it's worth..


PS> Hell I know a lot of hi-point haters out there but from people that ACTUALLY own them I hear most of the time they shoot decent and are cheap for a gun.. More power to them but I wouldn't buy one unless it was my 1st handgun and I was REALLY strapped for cash..

Listen to this man. He knows what he's talking about.






OP. Like most have said, any NH, WC, EB, SA (PRO or CC), LB or 2-letter alphabet soup maker will produce a high quality 1911. Each have different building philosophies, you'll have to decide which fits you the best.

[ap3572001]

For under 3000.00 total. I would be getting a clean , used series 70 or Commercial ( post war) Colt and sending it to for some work to one of the known 1911 shops for custom work.

[mif_slim]

for 3k, you can get a rock island 1911(450?), built and ar (600), buy a ak-47(550?), a saiga-12(600?), a 10/22(300?), and still have 600 to spend ammo for each gun.

but that's what I would do. it's not the price of the gun but the person behind it.

[RedFord150]

...it's not the price of the gun but the person behind it.

This is true. It is also true that a Chevy will go anywhere a Cadillac will go. The Caddy just rides nicer ;-).

[hss0p]

at that pace, the 4" group should be very doable at 50 yards for a newer shooter. i gather that you're shooting a bit faster inside 25 yards

Baer's 1.5" option is what makes the 2" groups possible by the good shooters

Uh no. I have shot with a large number of new shooters. A 4" group at 50 yards with a 1911 and only 1-1.5 second breaks? I have NEVER seen done by a new shooter.

That is just based off of the people who I have known and seen shoot 1911's at those ranges. Maybe 10 people.

But I have seen many more new people shoot 1911s at ~20 yards, and 4" is tough for them to reach.

[inbox485]

How about for 3K you get yourself a decent safe and not have brilliant ideas like leave a 30k gun collection out "for cleaning" while they get stolen. I still think your burglary story is a fairytale. I'm just waiting for either haha just kidding or the federal indictment for straw sales.

[teflondog]

After owning high end 1911s, I personally would never buy another production 1911 again. That may be true for the OP as well. If he wants to spend $3k on a 1911 then we should recommend guns in that price range rather than tell him to get something way cheaper and use the change to buy ammo (if he has $3k to spend on a gun then I'm sure he has the cash for ammo).

I'd personally get a Wilson Combat CQB Elite. Wilson has excellent customer service on par with Springfield and their guns are works of art in my opinion.

[olhunter]

So sandiegogunnut, this thread was no help at all, was it? lol...

And your screen-name threw me for a sec....I was wondering what the hell a Sandie Gogunnut was...

[hss0p]

for 3k, you can get a rock island 1911(450?), built and ar (600), buy a ak-47(550?), a saiga-12(600?), a 10/22(300?), and still have 600 to spend ammo for each gun.

but that's what I would do. it's not the price of the gun but the person behind it.

Rock Island?

[Southbay]

The op asked for suggestions on purchasing a $3000 1911, not advice on what else he should spend his money on. Telling him to buy a safe, Sig, Glock, Taurus, Rock Island, rifle, shotgun or a $500 1911 is pointless, stay focused.

All the obvious top manufactures make great $3000 1911’s I am sure whatever you chose you will love it. Decide what you are going to do with it, range, competition, carry etc and that will help you narrow the field.

My experience I always lusted after high end custom 1911’s but I first purchased an entry level one. Eventually I purchased a $2000+ 1911 and then another and they always put a smile on my face when I shoot them, the cheap 1911’s I have never get used.

[9mmepiphany]

Uh no. I have shot with a large number of new shooters. A 4" group at 50 yards with a 1911 and only 1-1.5 second breaks? I have NEVER seen done by a new shooter.

That is just based off of the people who I have known and seen shoot 1911's at those ranges. Maybe 10 people.

But I have seen many more new people shoot 1911s at ~20 yards, and 4" is tough for them to reach.

Originally Posted by 9mmepiphany
at that pace, the 4" group should be very doable at 50 yards for a newer shooter. i gather that you're shooting a bit faster inside 25 yards

Baer's 1.5" option is what makes the 2" groups possible by the good shooters

there is a large difference between a new shooter and a newer shooter who has attended a good shooting class.

i extend the same invitation as i did before. sign up for the class in this thread http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=322253 and become a better shooter.

at the very least, you can frame the playing card you cut in half from 7-10 yards

[Shenaniguns]

there is a large difference between a new shooter and a newer shooter who has attended a good shooting class.

i extend the same invitation as i did before. sign up for the class in this thread http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=322253 and become a better shooter.

at the very least, you can frame the playing card you cut in half from 7-10 yards

You signed me up for my first Grayguns class back in 2006 or so

[9mmepiphany]

hee hee...and i can safety assume you've never regretted it

I'm a huge believer it starting new shooters with a good shooting class so they will correctly learn the correct skills that they can practice throughout their shooting careers. you learn all the things that can be done and prove to your self that you can do them.

sometimes you just need to see how things should be done to believe...reading about it isn't enough