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  • C.W.M.V.
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 4647

    Draco questions

    Well I did it and ordered a Draco (Drako?) from peach state guns. I was going to buy another Saiga 5.45 but none of our suppliers have any in stock, oh well...

    Anyway Im planning on going 100% mall ninja on this pistol, down to the single point sling, optic, laser, Krink brake/can, etc.

    In order to fulfill this vision of tacticoolness I need an ultimac setup that works with the Draco. Does such a thing exist? I intend to use the ultimac/primary arms gen 2 red dot.

    And where are you guys getting cheap 7.62x39?

    Thanks, Im sure Ill have more questions about this the closer I get to having it.
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    AFAIK...
    None of the Ultimaks fit the Draco.
    Some people have shortend (cut/grind) Ultimaks to fit on the Draco, so you can try that route.

    I went with a Midwest Industries universial AK rail to mount my Primary Arms Micro-Dot.
    No mods were required, just followed the instructions, very easy to install and works well.
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    • #3
      C.W.M.V.
      Banned
      • Feb 2010
      • 4647

      Are the irons visible through that setup?

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      • #4
        SxB
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 914

        Congrats on the Draco. I think I saw a 5.45 at newfrontierarmory.com
        I just ordered an arsenal from them. They're great to work with. J&R sports over in Livermore is accepting the transfer, I've been dealing with Joe. He has also been a great help. Plus he gave me a calguns member discount.
        Just my two cents.
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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by C.W.M.V.
          Are the irons visible through that setup?
          Unfortunately, no.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            migz
            Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 322

            Originally posted by C.W.M.V.
            ... Im planning on going 100% mall ninja on this pistol, down to the single point sling, optic, laser, Krink brake/can, etc.

            I
            100% mall ninja is the only way to go on this pistol.

            7.62 ammo: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...62x39-fmj-ammo

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            • #7
              sniper4usmc
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 1984

              USMC 95-99

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              • #8
                C.W.M.V.
                Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 4647

                ...Draco en route!
                Last edited by C.W.M.V.; 08-28-2010, 11:51 PM.

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                • #9
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30242

                  Originally posted by C.W.M.V.
                  So now I need an inexpensive transfer to accept these in the greater fresno area...any ideas?
                  Check with PRK Arms in Fresno?
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                  • #10
                    C.W.M.V.
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 4647

                    As a last resort maybe. Last I saw they charged $100 for the transfer on pistols. Ill drive a ways to save cash!

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                    • #11
                      SJgunguy24
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2008
                      • 14849

                      Originally posted by C.W.M.V.
                      As a last resort maybe. Last I saw they charged $100 for the transfer on pistols. Ill drive a ways to save cash!
                      You do understand an FFL can charge anything they want for an out of state transfer?

                      From my short time down there, black rifle friendly FFL's are few and far between and an AK pistol transfer is gonna be really tough.
                      There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                      The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                      The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                      The others, well......they just never learn.

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                      • #12
                        C.W.M.V.
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 4647

                        Yes I do, but as a consumer its my job to find the best deal. Got to shop around!

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                        • #13
                          C.W.M.V.
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 4647

                          Well A&A is taking the transfer for it so Ill be doing the 4473 for it next week. Back on topic...
                          Pretty much decided on putting this on the front end...

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                          and an ACE or similar stock on the rear. Still trying to find a write up on adapting an ultimac to this pistol though.

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                          • #14
                            jak77
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1453

                            Nice pistols guys! I have a quick question, if you moved to a free state, could you put a stock on these pistols and register it as an SBR?
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                            • #15
                              Quiet
                              retired Goon
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 30242

                              Originally posted by C.W.M.V.
                              Well A&A is taking the transfer for it so Ill be doing the 4473 for it next week. Back on topic...
                              Pretty much decided on putting this on the front end...

                              US Machinegun.com: Providing gun parts for AK-47 PARTS,AR-15 ACCESSORIES,BRASS CATCHERS,DESERT EAGLE EXTRAS,FAKE SUPPRESSORS,GENTLY USED PARTS,GLOCK EXTRAS & PARTS,GRIPS,GUN CASES AND SLINGS,GUNS FOR SALE,M-11 & M12 SEMI AUTO PARTS,M-11 SMG REPLACEMENT PARTS,M-11 SMG UPGRADES,M-12 & M-11 .380 PARTS,MAC TOOLS,MAC-10 SEMI AUTO PARTS,MAC-10 SMG REPLACEMENT PARTS,MAC-10 SMG UPGRADES,MAGAZINE POUCHES & BELTS,MAGAZINES AND DRUMS,MANUALS & BOOKS REAR STOCKS,SCOPES & LASERS,SHOTGUN UPGRADES,SIG SAUER EXTRAS,SPEED LOADERS,SUPPRESSORS,THREAD ADAPTERS,THREAD PROTECTORS,UZI PARTS,WALTHER COMPONENTS


                              and an ACE or similar stock on the rear. Still trying to find a write up on adapting an ultimac to this pistol though.
                              Are you going to turn your Draco into a rifle?
                              If so, you will have to permanetly install the muzzle attachment to give it a minimum 16" barrel length and you'll have to make sure the OAL is 30" or greater.


                              Originally posted by jak77
                              Nice pistols guys! I have a quick question, if you moved to a free state, could you put a stock on these pistols and register it as an SBR?
                              Yes. However, you will need to get BATFE approval for a SBR prior to installing a shoulder stock. Once you get your $200 tax stamp, you can legally install a shoulder stock.
                              Last edited by Quiet; 08-22-2010, 3:30 AM.
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