'06 handgun laws

[trbon8r]

It's my understanding that all handguns sold in CA after the new year must have a chamber loaded indicator. My question is what about existing used guns that do not have this feature? Is it going to be similar to the drop test laws where "noncompliant" guns can still be transferred from one CA resident to another through a private party transfer? Thanks.

[Librarian]

For handguns not on the Roster by 31 December 2005, it's

EITHER loaded chamber indicator
OR magazine disconnect in 2006;
BOTH in 2007.

Any weapon on the Roster may continue to be sold as-is, but a manufacturer can't put a weapon on the list in 2006 without having one of those features.

PPT doesn't use the Roster.

[Bruce]

IIRC, this applies only to semi-automatic pistols, and those already approved aren't affected as long as the manufacturer pays the fee to keep them on the list.

[Pryde]

Does this law only apply to complete handguns?

What if I wanted to buy just a frame (the FFL required and registered part of a handgun), how would that work with the chamber indicated law?

[leelaw]

Does this law only apply to complete handguns?

What if I wanted to buy just a frame (the FFL required and registered part of a handgun), how would that work with the chamber indicated law?

You can't buy a frame only (AFAIK) because it is impossible to test just a bare frame for the safety tests (no hammer/trigger/sear/etc to "drop/safety test") anyways, so this law shouldn't do anything to change that.

If I'm wrong, someone correct me because I want to buy some 1911 frames!

[ldivinag]

hey... if all firearms are to be considered loaded (even the new BFSC test has it), why do i need a loaded indicator?????




[/sarcasm]

[esskay]

sorry, you can't buy just a frame in Kali... (Except through PPT or "personal importation" when moving into the state)

[Pryde]

What about C&R pistols, how will this apply?

Thanks for the answers btw. =)

[EOD Guy]

What about C&R pistols, how will this apply?

Thanks for the answers btw. =)

C&R handguns are exempt from the list.

[sa champion]

what are C&R handguns?

[gose]

sorry, you can't buy just a frame in Kali... (Except through PPT or "personal importation" when moving into the state)

So we'll just have to take turns moving in and out of the state

[E__WOK]

what are C&R handguns?

Anything over 50 years old.

[dadoody]

Been wanting a Glock. Should I buy it this year then? Will new Glocks in CA next year be Kali-fied???

[shopkeep]

it's my understanding that Glock already has added chamber indicators to most of their pistols. I would not be surprised if by 2007 they add a magazine disconnect.

On the otherhand though... this is going to make some small companies EXTREMELY big. Kel Tec was a company NO ONE had ever heard of and then along came SB-23 and they achieved a near monopoly over semi-auto .223s in Kali.

I mean just think of it... now that NY is going to be just like Kali and NJ mostly is... that means Kel Tec has a monopoly to sell .223 semi-auto polymer rifles to nearly 1/7 of the US population! I bet whoever started that company is happy about SB-23!