Someone say yes

[BananaTyrant]

My understanding is, if your friend lives in California, then he can have it transferred to him from his father/mother when they visit if they live out of state. It also might be legal for him to inherit it directly since it'd be a transfer down his family line, not across it(not sure about inheritance laws). Then once he legally owns it in California, if he is officially a California resident, then he can simply go to an FFL with you and do a $35 PPT and you would have yourself a new .50 handgun.

No your buddy can have the gun shipped to a CA FFL. That is legal if the inter familal (sp?) exemption is used for the transfer.

I'm pretty sure that the family member has to personally hand it to you, and it's still illegal to have it shipped to an FFL.

[kellito]

Someone say yes

My understanding is, if your friend lives in California, then he can have it transferred to him from his father/mother when they visit if they live out of state. It also might be legal for him to inherit it directly since it'd be a transfer down his family line, not across it(not sure about inheritance laws). Then once he legally owns it in California, if he is officially a California resident, then he can simply go to an FFL with you and do a $35 PPT and you would have yourself a new .50 handgun.

Yea, if your buddy owns it, meet him at FFL, pay the dough and it's yours.

As for the second part, how would that work when they are deceased? As far as I know, if my dad was to give me a pistol, I would have him send it to FFL and I would pay 19 duckets for it to be mine.

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[BananaTyrant]

Yea, if your buddy owns it, meet him at FFL, pay the dough and it's yours.

As for the second part, how would that work when they are deceased? As far as I know, if my dad was to give me a pistol, I would have him send it to FFL and I would pay 19 duckets for it to be mine.

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If by the second part you mean having to have it physically handed to them, I meant from a parent or grandparent that is still alive. Like I said I'm not sure about inheritance laws. There's the possibility that all his friend has to do is pick it up, but also the possibility that the friend's parents will have to take possession of it then travel down here and do a physical hand off and file the inter-familial transfer paperwork.

[SJgunguy24]

My understanding is, if your friend lives in California, then he can have it transferred to him from his father/mother when they visit if they live out of state. It also might be legal for him to inherit it directly since it'd be a transfer down his family line, not across it(not sure about inheritance laws). Then once he legally owns it in California, if he is officially a California resident, then he can simply go to an FFL with you and do a $35 PPT and you would have yourself a new .50 handgun.

I'm pretty sure that the family member has to personally hand it to you, and it's still illegal to have it shipped to an FFL.

Wrong, Inter familial transfers are roster exepmt. The Op's buddy can have that gun shipped to an FFL and transferred to him under that exemption. Grandpa can't bring you that gun if he's dead.

Then the OP's buddy can transfer that gun to the OP. That is how it works.

[BananaTyrant]

Wrong, Inter familial transfers are roster exepmt. The Op's buddy can have that gun shipped to an FFL and transferred to him under that exemption. Grandpa can't bring you that gun if he's dead.

Then the OP's buddy can transfer that gun to the OP. That is how it works.

Hmmm... You're right, it can be shipped. There was a string of threads awhile back where several of the more knowledgeable members had stated there needed to be a physical transfer. I can't find them now(search is nearly useless...). Now I'm finding other equally/more knowledgeable members saying it can be. However, there does need to be some documentation from the member saying they're giving it to him, so hopefully it's in the will or something.

Also, forgot mention, I like how some people turn in to sarcastic bastards when you try to politely point out that you've heard differently.

[SJgunguy24]

Hmmm... You're right, it can be shipped. There was a string of threads awhile back where several of the more knowledgeable members had stated there needed to be a physical transfer. I can't find them now(search is nearly useless...). Now I'm finding other equally/more knowledgeable members saying it can be. However, there does need to be some documentation from the member saying they're giving it to him, so hopefully it's in the will or something.

If the OP's buddy lived out of state then he would have to come to CA to legally transfer the non rostered handgun.

I've been here for awhile, worked for FFL's as a builder and if I'm wrong I will be the first guy to admit it.

Sarcastic? Yep I can be sarcastic at times. Bastard? Yep, I have no idea what my father looks like and i've never met anybody from his family.
Also saying what you've heard can lead someone into a felony case. I've heard a lot of things, but unless I can verify what I've heard I try to keep it to myself.

[erikdjs]

Is your friend a CA resident? It does make a difference.

If he is - the gun can be "imported" into CA via an intrafamily transfer from your friend's grandmother/father/mother to him. This can be done via shipment to an FFL.

Once the gun is legally in CA - he simply needs to PPT to you at an FFL. PPT's are CA exempt.

If you're friend isn't a CA resident, it becomes more complicated.

[Ed_Hazard]

If the OP's buddy lived out of state then he would have to come to CA to legally transfer the non rostered handgun.

I've been here for awhile, worked for FFL's as a builder and if I'm wrong I will be the first guy to admit it.

No your right, itrafamilial, directline Father/Grandfather-son transfers are roster exempt.

Have it shipped in from the grandfather to your freind with a letter from ganddad saying it's a gift. Then your buddy can PPT it to you.

[JohnFLand]

Have it shipped in from the grandfather to your freind with a letter from ganddad saying it's a gift. Then your buddy can PPT it to you.

Read the OP: Grandpa is DEAD.

[Ed_Hazard]

Read the OP: Grandpa is DEAD.

My mistake then the freind has to go pick up his inherited gun or have the executor of the estate ship it to him.

[remyjoeboxer]

Wow...Holy CRAP!
I get whats going on here, and I sympathize with the OP, but trying to explain the "finer points" of CA laws are a bumblef*ck attempt at best.
I mean come on, it this the real test...you have to be savvy enough to get around the laws, or else you fail the litmus test?
I mean what bridge troll thought these laws up? It's like dangling an apple in front of a donkey to get it to jump through a hoop. And we are all donkeys, gentleman.
Sorry for my non-productive rant everyone, as all I see is solid advice/posts here, I am also very grateful to see the CG vets helping us rookies out. And best luck to the OP, hope you get what you want.

[JohnFLand]

So I guess that this discussion begs the question: what paperwork is needed, and what is the precise process, for an in-CA heir to receive weapons (including handguns) from an out-of-state deceased? While I can research this on my own from original source material, I'm lazy -- is there an existing thread or wiki that sets forth the answer?

[SJgunguy24]

So I guess that this discussion begs the question: what paperwork is needed, and what is the precise process, for an in-CA heir to receive weapons (including handguns) from an out-of-state deceased? While I can research this on my own from original source material, I'm lazy -- is there an existing thread or wiki that sets forth the answer?

There is an area on the DROS form that asks for the type of exemption.

[Ed_Hazard]

When in doubt bring in a ringer

Answers embedded, bold.

Originally Posted by daves_daily
I apologize for bringing this up, again. I say again because I realize there are some old threads on this, there has to be. The problem is, the laws change and I'm not sure that anything older than last week is current.

Skeptic!
In CA, laws generally change effective Jan 1. Things deemed "urgent" can take effect sooner, but nothing like that has happened with gun laws recently.

I read a string that quoted an exception to the requirement to register, or I should say transfer, a handgun that is inherited from an immediate family member. That basically I can go bring them back and file an interfamilial handgun transfer form? The definition of immediate family is a little shady. But, I'm going to assume that the phrase "parent and child" means that the children can hand guns down to each other, the operative word being "and."

Within California, an intrafamilial transfer is routine, and the Roster does not apply. "Family" is parent/child or grandparent/grandchild, both directions - see

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...Family_Members

Brother-to-sister does not work.

Out of CA into CA is actually simple for inheritance between the right family members; Feds do not require FFL and CA does not require FFL. You can just pick them up.

Handguns need the Oplaw form. Long guns need nothing.

An interstate transfer that's not intrafamily inheritance almost always has to go through a CA FFL.


That's all well and good, but what if the handgun isn't on the approved DoJ list? Not a high cap auto, a Model 60 Smith. Does that matter.

Nope, doesn't matter. Intrafamilial is exempt from the Roster.

Heres a link to the thread:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=178493

[Ed_Hazard]

So I guess that this discussion begs the question: what paperwork is needed, and what is the precise process, for an in-CA heir to receive weapons (including handguns) from an out-of-state deceased? While I can research this on my own from original source material, I'm lazy -- is there an existing thread or wiki that sets forth the answer?

Only because you admitted this and that fact that I have'nt had a chance to use this untill now.