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  • Donk310
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1798

    Sigma help!!

    Ok people. If you are a S&W Sigma owner, you know how tight the trigger action is on this pistol. If you've never shot one then you've probably read about it. Here is the situation... For some reason I like to line my pistols up in my safe in the order of most liked... to least liked. Right now in the most liked slot is a (Hello) Sig P226 (How you doin'). In the least liked slot is a S&W Sigma 40 (my red headed stepchild). Then there are several in the middle. Well, Lately I've been reaching right for that Sigma when I go mess around at the range. I FREAKIN' LOVE THIS PISTOL! All internet crap aside, this is a GREAT pistol. But.... the trigger still sucks! What I am looking for is someone in the LA / Orange County area that can do a trigger job on it. One of you dog-gone hard-chargers out there know someone. Please let me know. This pistol has the potential to knock my G19 into the red headed step child slot. The Sig... well I told my Sig and my Sigma to talk over who's gonna take over the #1 spot when the safe is closed. I think they arm wrestle when I'm not looking. Thanks.

    P.S. I like to here from the other Sigma lovers too.... don't be shy.
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  • #2
    Notblake
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 512

    Oh jeez.......................

    I wont do a trigger job on yours, but if you want to try mine and if you like the difference then I will happily show you how to make yours like mine. I agree the SW40VE is a pretty darn good gun for the money. I have mine pretty much worked out to the point where I am happy with it, but have no real desire to shoot it. Which is actually good because it is one of my first reaction guns so it just sits there loaded and vigilant, I don't really get hot and bothered to play with it anymore.

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    • #3
      pyro3k2
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 2649

      Smith and wesson does have a factory option to improve trigger pull and overall trigger feel, it is alittle bit on the expensive side and it might actually cost more than your pistol but since your interested i'll like it.http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y
      But I being poor, have only my dreams. I have spread my dreams under your feet. Tread softely, because you tread on my dreams.

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      • #4
        afro
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 748

        Try this if you have never messed with the trigger.

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        • #5
          mjpjr
          Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 148

          I have the sigma 9mm and I am pretty happy with it. The trigger isnt the greatest for range use, but I bought it for HD and it is perfect for that. I have about 800 rounds through it without a single problem. Not sure what you are trying to fix. Not much can be done about the triggers long pull. Some polishing can help smooth things out if done correctly. If a lighter trigger pull is desired, Wolf sells lighter stricker springs but warn they are for range use only as they may cause light strikes and ftf's with some ammo with harder primers. Some people remove springs to make the trigger easier to pull, but personally, I wouldnt recommend just removing factory installed parts.
          As for the real cure, it would be the new SD models. Same type and size frame as sigma but trigger and slide more like the M&P. Priced in between the sigma and M&P too.

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          • #6
            Maddog5150
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2006
            • 10526

            Every trigger mod I have ever heard of violates warrenty and comprimises the safety features. I've heard of NDs caused by people listening ot internet gunsmiths. Its a SW Stigma. You knew what the trigger pull was like, you have guns with a better trigger pull, if you want to shoot the Stigma, just deal with it.
            I like Pyros mod though. Thats a surefire cure for the trigger. The MP40

            *Edit* The Smith and Wesson Stigma. Its for when you go to the gunstore to buy a Glock but then realize you want to spend 200 bucks on beer also.
            Buy my EO Tech XPS3-0!!!

            For those nutjobs who like to use the word "gouge"
            Note: I did not write the above article.

            Any carpenters in Socal want a side project?

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            • #7
              Donk310
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 1798

              Originally posted by afro
              Try this if you have never messed with the trigger.

              http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/non-xd-...igger-fix.html
              I saw this a little earlier. It doesn't seem that anyone knows of anyone in the LA / Orange County area that can do it, so I will probably just end up trying to do this myself when I get some time. Thanks!
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              • #8
                doc540
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 1515

                Solution:

                Call S&W customer service.

                Tell them the trigger is "gritty" and "rough".

                DO NOT tell them the trigger is "stiff" or "heavy".

                They will email a prepaid label for shipping.

                Ship the frame to them on their dime.

                They'll smooth up the trigger which makes it seem like it's "lighter".

                You should get it back in the mail within two weeks.

                Trigger will be MUCH better.

                They've done three SIGMA's for me.
                Shooting more, typing less

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                • #9
                  Donk310
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1798

                  Originally posted by doc540
                  Solution:

                  Call S&W customer service.

                  Tell them the trigger is "gritty" and "rough".

                  DO NOT tell them the trigger is "stiff" or "heavy".

                  They will email a prepaid label for shipping.

                  Ship the frame to them on their dime.

                  They'll smooth up the trigger which makes it seem like it's "lighter".

                  You should get it back in the mail within two weeks.

                  Trigger will be MUCH better.

                  They've done three SIGMA's for me.
                  Roger that. Did you go through an FFL?
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                  • #10
                    chuck762
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 1049

                    Originally posted by Donk310
                    Roger that. Did you go through an FFL?
                    No FFL needed. A firearm can go directly to the factory for repair and back to you with out a FFL.

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                    • #11
                      Homebrew2
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 346

                      Just chiming in in case it may be of any help:
                      Have about 800 rnds thru my SW9VE. (Also have a SW M29 44M, long stiff trig too).
                      My trig is NOT gritty (lucky).
                      For SD sceneros, I like the factory trig.
                      But I like plinking too, without losing interest due to fatigued finger and 24" groups @ 50 yds.
                      This weekend I removed the infamous 2 springs ... I found a new friend for plinking/target !!
                      It only takes 2 seconds to remove the sear block assy once the slide is off. So, I just ordered a new assy for $50 shipped so I can quickly swap between the 2 as desired.
                      Cheers!

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                      • #12
                        bigthaiboy
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4795

                        Check out the S&W forum, and search for "Sigma trigger job". Much has been discussed on the subject, and members have concluded that if you want a lighter trigger (removal of two out of three trigger springs), don't use it as a self-defense gun, because it will function fine for range use. The only thing that has been found on the trigger job is that in quite rare instances, the trigger may not reset if you are using +P rounds. Since you won't be shooting more expensive +P rounds at paper targets, the trigger will work fine on "regular strength" ammo.

                        As for warranty issues, the removal of the springs is not permanent, and can be replaced in a few minutes, if any other warranty issues should ever arise. I would stay away from the lighter Wolff springs, as they can cause light primer strikes. I personally think, this is a bigger compromise than a trigger which may not reset on +P ammunition.

                        Go ahead and send the pistol back to S&W, as suggested. When it gets back, the trigger-pull weight will still be the same, but very much smoother. The gritty trigger thing appears to be more common on older Sigmas than the current production.

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                        • #13
                          kpw001
                          Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 244

                          Originally posted by bigthaiboy
                          if you want a lighter trigger (removal of two out of three trigger springs), don't use it as a self-defense gun, because it will function fine for range use.
                          +1 If you don't plan on using it as your HD gun then this will probably do the job. I left my Sigma alone what it was my only gun in the event of self-defense. Since that job goes to my 1911 now I went in a polished up some of the parts and took out one of the springs. This is the way to go if you just want to lighten the pull. SW will polish up the parts and sent it back which will make the pull smoother but I achieved the same on my own.

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                          • #14
                            speeedracerr
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 975

                            I know Bolsa Gunsmithing in the city of Westminister can probably do your trigger work for the Sigma.

                            I went there to inquire about it being they are an Authorized S&W service center and they said they can lightening it up a bit if I wanted.

                            I didn't do it since the stock trigger pull is fine with me.
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                            • #15
                              Donk310
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1798

                              Originally posted by speeedracerr
                              I know Bolsa Gunsmithing in the city of Westminister can probably do your trigger work for the Sigma.

                              I went there to inquire about it being they are an Authorized S&W service center and they said they can lightening it up a bit if I wanted.

                              I didn't do it since the stock trigger pull is fine with me.
                              Perfect.. thanks!
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