I also vote to sell the Kimber and get the Pro. If you get it from SA custom....the wait is about 12-15 months minimum. While they are hard to find, they still can be found online from the shops have them in stock now and not have to wait on them. But it will cost a little more ($2700-2800) range.
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Should I sell my MC Operator and Kimber TLE/Rl for a SA Pro?
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Not a fan of the Schwartz safty, so unless it is Series I, I'd let the Kimber go (personally).
That being said, I see two possible scenarios here:
1) You are so over amped about the Pro, that you may end up disappointed that it is not double the pistol of your current two. Don't get me wrong, the Pro is an awesome piece of machinery and fit/finish is about as good as it gets. As long as your expectation is reasonable, you will not be disappointed.
2) You don't get the Pro...instead you buy pistol after pistol that are "almost" the Pro. You end up spending more in the end and are never 100% satisfied.
One thing to consider (and it may be difficult to judge right now).....if you were to get the Pro tomorrow, would you still shoot the Kimber/MCO? If no, then let them go. I've changed my thinking in collecting in that there is not a great reason to buy something if it is just going to end up in the safe.
I guess my question is "would you be satisfied with the Pro" if you no longer had the Kimber/MCO? If yes....then let them go (but at least wait until you have a Pro available to you before you put them up for sale).
Otherwise....if you can swing it....buy the Pro. Once you have all 3, take them all shooting....decide what you can live without and sell it. A harder stretch on the pocketbook, but will save you a lot of second guessing in the future. Been there....done all of the above....too many times.
Good luck with your decision.Comment
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If you can do so and are willing to wait, keep both guns and save up for the Pro. If you sell either of them, you will probably regret it later.
This one just sold and tho 3yrs. old, had not been shot per the owner except by SA for testing purposes.
Another one sold here last week.
I bought a used one a few months back from another member who listed it.
My point is, tho scarce, they do show up here every so often, so the year wait may not have to occur.
I didn't sell any of my guns and already had a SA 1911 Milspec. There is nothing wrong with having more than one 1911. You should contact louiscamaro and ask him about that as I believe he has about 40 high end guns, many of them are 1911 pistols.
Do I like my Pro; sure do.
It is one of my favorite guns and is a fantastic piece of art and engineering. Yes, mine was used (2002 model), but with less than 1000 rounds in it. The Nowlin barrel is not used in the new Pros as SA I believe builds their own. I don't recall what year that began and everything I've read here says the Nowlin barrel is the better of the two in case that is what you wanted.
If you don't care if it is brand spanking new from SA or a gun shop, start saving your money and keep checking here or one of the 1911 forums as one will turn up.Comment
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You know what they say...
Two is one, and one is none.
But three is better!
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The series II has never given me any trouble although given the choice it would be series I.Not a fan of the Schwartz safty, so unless it is Series I, I'd let the Kimber go (personally).
That being said, I see two possible scenarios here:
1) You are so over amped about the Pro, that you may end up disappointed that it is not double the pistol of your current two. Don't get me wrong, the Pro is an awesome piece of machinery and fit/finish is about as good as it gets. As long as your expectation is reasonable, you will not be disappointed.
2) You don't get the Pro...instead you buy pistol after pistol that are "almost" the Pro. You end up spending more in the end and are never 100% satisfied.
One thing to consider (and it may be difficult to judge right now).....if you were to get the Pro tomorrow, would you still shoot the Kimber/MCO? If no, then let them go. I've changed my thinking in collecting in that there is not a great reason to buy something if it is just going to end up in the safe.
I guess my question is "would you be satisfied with the Pro" if you no longer had the Kimber/MCO? If yes....then let them go (but at least wait until you have a Pro available to you before you put them up for sale).
Otherwise....if you can swing it....buy the Pro. Once you have all 3, take them all shooting....decide what you can live without and sell it. A harder stretch on the pocketbook, but will save you a lot of second guessing in the future. Been there....done all of the above....too many times.
Good luck with your decision.
Both scenarios are very possible and both have happened to me on multiple occasions. The good thing is I don't think I would have trouble finding a buyer for the Pro.
If i had the Pro it would be my go to 1911. I only bring one with me to the range at a time, so if it fits the bill why have more than...... 2 right
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Its funny, I knew that comment about the MCO would stir some interest. Ive already had a few people message me wanting to buy it.
Retired,
More than likely I would try and find one on the boards before waiting 14-16 months from Springfield. The barrel difference isnt an issue for me although I wouldn't pay more for the Nowlin.
There aren't too many guns I have regretted selling. I love the Kimber, The MCO is so desired if i wanted another one it would be tough to find for a reasonable price.
I think My best best is to save some cash and go from there.
The other issue is, Ive been saving for either a SCAR, ACR or a LMT MRP for my LMT lower. So much want and not enough $$$.Comment
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I wasn't implying the Series II were necessarily bad....I am just not a fan of "extra parts". Simple is better, so long as it does everything you need it to do and is reliable. I run into this situation quite a bit at work. We get many different types of equipment from Germany. Germans build great, precision stuff....but in many cases...did you really need 30 parts to accomplish what you could have done with 12? Just more things to go wrong.The series II has never given me any trouble although given the choice it would be series I.
Both scenarios are very possible and both have happened to me on multiple occasions. The good thing is I don't think I would have trouble finding a buyer for the Pro.
If i had the Pro it would be my go to 1911. I only bring one with me to the range at a time, so if it fits the bill why have more than...... 2 right
Thanks for the help guys
I don't think you would have a problem selling any of the 3. If you can financially swing it, I would say don't sell anything yet. Get the Pro, shoot all 3 then decide what to let go. It might be you keep the Pro and let the other two go....or you just might find out that one of the ones you have now is just right for you.
I had a NHC built the way I wanted it (after selling a beautiful Talon to pay for it). Runs beautifully, but I had a couple of issues with the cosmetics and fit (you would have to look way back to find the thread with the photos). Unfortunately, I did not notice these things until after I took delivery of the pistol. In the end, there was nothing they could do about it (short of building a new pistol, which they were not willing to do since it was custom built). That left a really sour taste in my mouth, and I began to think if the double cost was truly worth it or not. I'm not going to sell it, but made me start to really think. I've got other 1911's that are nearly as nice, but were half the cost.
I say, if a Pro is what you have your heart set on....get it. You will spend more money chasing the "almosts". Just be reasonable in what you are expecting to get. Everything about it will be better than your MCO and Kimber....just not in proportion to the difference in price.
All that being said, if I buy another semi-custom, it will be a Springer Pro. It's going to have to wait though....I'm doing a from-scratch custom build first. Damascus parts....it's going to be a family heirloom.
Good luck whatever you decide.Comment
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I wasn't implying the Series II were necessarily bad....I am just not a fan of "extra parts". Simple is better, so long as it does everything you need it to do and is reliable. I run into this situation quite a bit at work. We get many different types of equipment from Germany. Germans build great, precision stuff....but in many cases...did you really need 30 parts to accomplish what you could have done with 12? Just more things to go wrong.
I don't think you would have a problem selling any of the 3. If you can financially swing it, I would say don't sell anything yet. Get the Pro, shoot all 3 then decide what to let go. It might be you keep the Pro and let the other two go....or you just might find out that one of the ones you have now is just right for you.
I had a NHC built the way I wanted it (after selling a beautiful Talon to pay for it). Runs beautifully, but I had a couple of issues with the cosmetics and fit (you would have to look way back to find the thread with the photos). Unfortunately, I did not notice these things until after I took delivery of the pistol. In the end, there was nothing they could do about it (short of building a new pistol, which they were not willing to do since it was custom built). That left a really sour taste in my mouth, and I began to think if the double cost was truly worth it or not. I'm not going to sell it, but made me start to really think. I've got other 1911's that are nearly as nice, but were half the cost.
I say, if a Pro is what you have your heart set on....get it. You will spend more money chasing the "almosts". Just be reasonable in what you are expecting to get. Everything about it will be better than your MCO and Kimber....just not in proportion to the difference in price.
All that being said, if I buy another semi-custom, it will be a Springer Pro. It's going to have to wait though....I'm doing a from-scratch custom build first. Damascus parts....it's going to be a family heirloom.
Good luck whatever you decide.
Thanks for the help. I would love to do a custom build myself but finding the Caspian Recon frame I want is nearly impossible.
Ill probably save for the Pro and then sell what not needed or used. I think this is the best way to go.
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I've decided if I need another "railed" 1911, I would just have a Dawson rail put on to a Springer Pro...
(like this):

Makes for a more streamlined pistol and it is easier to find a holster that would fit....but then again, that's me.
I agree....get all in hand, then decide what goes (budget permitting), rather than the other way around. Consider it a short-term dip into savings that you will return to savings once you divest.
The build is going to be a while. I've only got 4 pieces (frame, slide, hammer and elephant ivories) and I am already at the cost of a TRP. It will end up a lot more....so I'm not in a big hurry...
Good luck!Last edited by SVRider; 07-01-2010, 12:36 PM.Comment
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