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  • Zubba
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 611

    Glock experts... I need help.

    Ok, so I picked up my first new glock, a 17 rtf2.

    After lubricating and inspecting, the first thing I noticed is that in order for it to cycle a round properly, I have to draw the slide back and release full force, if I attempt to slowly draw the slide back and slowly let it forward the slide catches and doesn't fall all the way forward, occasionally even resulting in what I think is a double feed. Coming from an HK background I've never experienced anything like this, and I'm wondering if it is normal, or if there is a defect in my new gun that I should be worried about.

    I took it to the range and shot 250 flawless rounds through it (pretty impressive considering the variety of junk I was throwing at it), so it seems to be ok, but the cycling thing has me concerned.

    Also, after the range trip during my typical cleaning session I noticed that there are some tiny metal shavings present along the barrel and inside the slide... kinda weird, as I've never seen anything like that... but again this is my first glock so I don't know if it's normal or what.

    Some advice please,
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    jdewolf
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1846

    Why would you not want to release with full force? Do you somehow think that the force of you manually racking the slide is more force and "trauma" on the slide then it's put under when you fire the gun?

    The brass shavings [or alum if you're using Blazer] is normal. I noticed I would get more shavings with cheaper ammo. I fired off some S&B and had no shavings at all. WWB, UMC, and Federal all give me shavings to some degree or another.
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    • #3
      CaptHobbes
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 66

      Letting the slide go full force is the standard procedure with any semi-auto. That's how they are designed to cycle.

      I saw some shavings after the first few hundred rounds too, not so much afterwards.
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      • #4
        jdewolf
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 1846

        I should add think about when you use the slide stop to release the slide, how much force does it close with. Exactly
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        • #5
          Zubba
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 611

          I'm not worried about the gun taking the "full force" so to say, I'm more concerned about the slide because this is to be my go to home defense weapon. I don't care to keep the gun with a round chambered (I never will) what I have done is keep the magazine loaded and deposited so that if I need to get to the pistol I simply have to snatch it and rack it to get going.... with the HK's I've never had a problem slowly and quietly racking the slide back and gently letting it go forward so it doesn't make a huge CLACK (letting whoever is in the house know where I am and what I just did), I'm a little distressed that it appears that glocks won't allow for this. I just want to know if it's normal, or if I should have the gun checked out.

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          • #6
            elSquid
            In Memoriam
            • Aug 2007
            • 11844

            Originally posted by Zubba

            After lubricating and inspecting, the first thing I noticed is that in order for it to cycle a round properly, I have to draw the slide back and release full force, if I attempt to slowly draw the slide back and slowly let it forward the slide catches and doesn't fall all the way forward,
            That's called "riding the slide". Don't do it.

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            • #7
              Librarian
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              • Oct 2005
              • 44664

              Normal - all of mine are like that.
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              • #8
                CaptHobbes
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 66

                To avoid noise, you can keep it chambered in a holster that covers the trigger.
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                • #9
                  Zubba
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 611

                  Originally posted by CaptHobbes
                  To avoid noise, you can keep it chambered in a holster that covers the trigger.
                  Since I freaking love this gun and the glock trigger relative to the shiiite HK trigger (please HK people, don't lynch me) I think I might have to go that route.

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                  • #10
                    supertrooper
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 624

                    Originally posted by Zubba
                    I'm not worried about the gun taking the "full force" so to say, I'm more concerned about the slide because this is to be my go to home defense weapon. I don't care to keep the gun with a round chambered (I never will) what I have done is keep the magazine loaded and deposited so that if I need to get to the pistol I simply have to snatch it and rack it to get going.... with the HK's I've never had a problem slowly and quietly racking the slide back and gently letting it go forward so it doesn't make a huge CLACK (letting whoever is in the house know where I am and what I just did), I'm a little distressed that it appears that glocks won't allow for this. I just want to know if it's normal, or if I should have the gun checked out.
                    its normal. a unloaded HD gun is just an expensive brick. slowly droping the slind could cause a failure to go into battery causing the gun not to fire. keep the gun loaded in a holster when its in its hiding spot. i dont think your thought of the bag guy hearing you rack the slide will make him go find you. if anything he will run away.
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                    • #11
                      Josh3239
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 9197

                      You could try this, apparently it was made for CCW:



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                      • #12
                        tuna quesadilla
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 5147

                        Originally posted by Josh3239
                        LOL seriously? Think about this for a second...

                        "HMM, I think I'll make my pistol safer by putting in a device that requires me to put my finger inside the trigger guard and push..."

                        Yeah not a good idea. That's an ND waiting to happen. OP, practice carrying a loaded gun. What you can do if you need peace of mind is: Take a snap cap and load it in your Glock, then for the next few days carry the gun around the house (and don't be gentle with it). You'll find that, even days later, the gun will still be cocked and will not have gone off. Glocks are very safe pistols -- they WILL NOT go off if you don't pull the trigger.

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                        • #13
                          tuna quesadilla
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 5147

                          And just thought I'd add to the discussion about riding the slide: My CZ still works 100% when I ride the slide. It just depends on the gun; some work when you ride the slide, but it's a good idea to just not ride it on any gun.

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                          • #14
                            jdewolf
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1846

                            Originally posted by Zubba
                            I'm not worried about the gun taking the "full force" so to say, I'm more concerned about the slide because this is to be my go to home defense weapon. I don't care to keep the gun with a round chambered (I never will) what I have done is keep the magazine loaded and deposited so that if I need to get to the pistol I simply have to snatch it and rack it to get going.... with the HK's I've never had a problem slowly and quietly racking the slide back and gently letting it go forward so it doesn't make a huge CLACK (letting whoever is in the house know where I am and what I just did), I'm a little distressed that it appears that glocks won't allow for this. I just want to know if it's normal, or if I should have the gun checked out.
                            Simply put, keep your finger off the trigger until you have to fire. Keep it along the slide or if your fingers are long enough enough keep it in front of the trigger guard itself. All the safety mechanisms in the world aren't gonna help... because ultimately a gun won't go boom until you pull that trigger.
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                            • #15
                              jdg30
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1095

                              I would keep a round chambered in the Glock if you want it to be ready to used if someone was in your home. The last thing you want is to go to use it with your adrenaline flowing and you forgot to rack the slide. Just keep your finger off the trigger and the gun is not going to fire.

                              The gun is designed to let the slide chamber the round under full spring tension. If you read the manual it states: "Pull back the slide with the free hand, and allow it to spring forward into the locked position."

                              The metal shavings are normal, the gun is brand new and is getting broken in.

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