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  • ruchik
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1189

    Jerry Miculek DA technique

    So I was checking out Jerry Miculek's video and articles on revolver grip technique, and I thought I saw something that puzzled me. He says that you should place the pad of the trigger finger on the trigger, THEN wrap the rest of your hand around the grip. Apparently, the grip is secondary to finger placement on the trigger. Upon closer inspection of his revolver grip video, I swear up and down that the revolver is NOT completely centered in his hand, in line with his forearm. I am 99.999% positive that it's centered at the base of his thumb. For me, that's the equivalent of scooching my hand around to reach the trigger better. If you have the proper support hand...support, then is this still a proper way to shoot a revolver? For some of the other techniques he describes, such as placing the trigger in the MIDDLE of your trigger finger instead of the pad to stage the trigger, you would pretty much have to shift your hand around into an "H-grip", unless you have mitts the size of the Governator. Wouldn't it bash up your thumb though?

    Here's the link to the video in question. Watch his hand right at 1:02 minute mark and you'll see what I mean.

    Last edited by ruchik; 05-23-2010, 8:25 PM.
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    9mmepiphany
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 8075

    Apparently, the grip is secondary to finger placement on the trigger
    this is correct, trigger management on either a revolver or semi-auto is what determines how accurate your shooting will be. if you find that you are compromising your grip too much, you'll need a smaller grip/gun
    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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    • #3
      SPE
      Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 254

      Thanks alot for posting the video link. I've heard of Jerry, but never seen videos of him.

      Dang, that guy is good. He can shoot a DA revolver smoother than I can shoot an SA semi-auto with a light trigger. I'm assuming his guns have a lot of customization, but still, that's some crazy steady shooting and insane fast reloading.

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      • #4
        UnklFungus
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 17

        Thanks for the post. I can see it correcting my misalignment when I mount my semi-auto.
        If it is ok to disarm legal citizens to reduce crime, then doesn't it stand to disband the military to prevent war?

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        • #5
          BigDogatPlay
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2007
          • 7362

          All of his guns come out of the S&W Performance Center... then he 'wears them in'. The beauty of S&Ws is that they get smoother with use. He uses made to measure grips and his grip / stance combination does not line his arm up with the gun, but I've heard he's strong as an ox and I am sure once he establishes his grip for correct trigger contact, it is like a vise.

          Thanks for posting the link.
          -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

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          • #6
            CSDGuy
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 3763

            Jerry is extremely good at shooting revolvers. He can shoot, empty, reload, and shoot revolvers faster than most people can do the same with a pistol.

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            • #7
              nn3453
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 2245

              Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
              All of his guns come out of the S&W Performance Center...
              Agree with everything else you said. My last 2 PC guns (bought within the last year) have heavy, gritty actions. Should have stuck to regular production. Current PC actions are no better than regular production guns. Glad I didn't fork out a whole lot extra cash for the PC versions. S&W should either get rid of the PC idea or fix the problem. Kind of like car manufacturers that put the Sport or Race badge on every car.

              I'm sure Jerry gets the nicer version though
              Last edited by nn3453; 05-23-2010, 10:47 PM.
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              • #8
                HCz
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 3295

                Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
                but I've heard he's strong as an ox
                I once had chance to shake hands with him. You will not believe how big his hand is.

                As for lining up the forearm with the gun, it will work for pure weaver stance but for isosceles and others it will not go well. In terms of practical shooting, I think the alignment with forearms is not something that has to be absolutely aligned.

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                • #9
                  ruchik
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1189

                  I thought aligning the gun's barrel with the forearm was the accepted technique of holding a gun?

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                  • #10
                    nn3453
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 2245

                    Originally posted by ruchik
                    I thought aligning the gun's barrel with the forearm was the accepted technique of holding a gun?
                    As someone pointed out, works with weaver. IMHO, the right technique is what makes *you* effective and allows you to have a neutral grip. If you look at Enos, Jarrett, IPSC type guys, they very rarely employ weaver.
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                    • #11
                      Dr. Peter Venkman
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 4899

                      Originally posted by nn3453
                      As someone pointed out, works with weaver. IMHO, the right technique is what makes *you* effective and allows you to have a neutral grip. If you look at Enos, Jarrett, IPSC type guys, they very rarely employ weaver.
                      Jarret doesn't employ weaver, but he aligns the pistol down his forearm:

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                      • #12
                        BigDogatPlay
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 7362

                        Originally posted by nn3453
                        I'm sure Jerry gets the nicer version though
                        I'm certain that every gun the PC turns out for him is 'balanced and blueprinted' to coin an old automotive term. There is a vast difference between what they would provide him and what the rest of us can get with the PC name on it.

                        -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

                        Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

                        Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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                        • #13
                          HCz
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3295

                          Originally posted by Dr. Peter Venkman
                          Jarret doesn't employ weaver, but he aligns the pistol down his forearm:

                          Yes, but look at when he shoots. line of sight and forearm are not exactly in one line. He mentions the alignment as a way to grab a pistol so shooters won't put it in wierd places. Once he gets into a shooting stance, then the misalignment is present.

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                          • #14
                            ruchik
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1189

                            My main question is, with misalignment like that, wouldn't your thumb hurt like hell after just a few dozen rounds?

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                            • #15
                              dunc289
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 696

                              Is it my imagination, or is he shooting right handed, left eyed?

                              Looks like it when he's shooting prone, and I can't really tell otherwise.

                              Sorry if it's a dumb question.

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