Hk P2000 LEM

[fifthward]

Takin my new toy out to the range tmw

Any advice or shooting technique suggestions for shooting the LEM.

All my shooting experience has been with either Sig DA/SA or XD striker fire.

Any advice welcome...



V2 LEM .40 S&W with Corbon DPX

[Greg-Dawg]

That LEM trigger is a mo'fo'. Get rid of it and make it a standard trigger.

[s2k2sti]

practice a lot of dry firing so you get the feel of the trigger. also when you are at the range utilize snap caps to see if you are jerking the gun at all.

the lem has a long but easy pull initially but gets tight when its about to fire. its all about getting to know exactly where that point is. dry fire and dry fire some more till you get muscle memory of where the firing point is.

also utilize the different back straps to see which one fits you best.

[Rivers]

That LEM trigger is a mo'fo'. Get rid of it and make it a standard trigger.

Spoken like you've not racked the slide before you tried the trigger. That is the biggest complaint about gun store salesmen who demo a LEM HK. They demonstrate it incorrectly and leave the customer with an undeserved bad impression.

The only time that heavy trigger pull is valid is IF you ever had a weak primer (the round didn't go "bang"). NORMAL use of the LEM trigger has a bullet already in the chamber and the slide just racked. Then it's a very sweet trigger.

I changed my springs to the 4.5# versions, cost less than $15 for the two. The trigger pull is exactly the same for each and every round. HK's with the LEM trigger system are carried with a round in the chamber so all you focus on is the trigger when you need to fire the pistol. No other levers like external safeties, etc. to mess with when you're under pressure. It's safe, just remember that it won't go bang unless you pull the trigger. No excuses that way.

[xLusi0n]

I've heard that going to the 4.5# trigger is sort of by passing HK's "safety" of having a heavier trigger in a gun without a manual safety. The Glocks at least have that trigger safety catch to help...I do agree in reality, anything that could cause a negligent discharge (such as catching the trigger on something) for a HK LEM could do so for the Glock too though.

[Rivers]

HK recommended that I try the 4.5# trigger and assured me that it was completely safe, no different from the standard except in trigger pull weight. And quite simply, you learn to guard the trigger so nothing touches it except your trigger finger. Kind of like the discipline too many take for granted because their pistol is safe with its external safety lever. Safe until that negligent discharge. With the LEM, it's always hot.

[fifthward]

Thanks guys

[Old4eyes]

The feel of the trigger reminds me of a smooth double action revolver. It is a lighter pull than my revolvers. Rivers nailed it when he stated there is a HUGE difference of the trigger pull if the slide has been racked as opposed to racking the slide, pull the trigger and then pull the trigger subsequent times without racking.

I also recommend snap cap usage. The issue here is that you have to pull the slide back a fair amount to get the gun cocked, and it's easy to go beyond that point and eject the snap cap. Makes for fun finding the snap cap when you were not expecting to eject it.

Also, get a feel of the trigger reset. Fire the gun (live ammo), keep the trigger back and slowly release to feel the reset point on the gun. That's how you solve the long trigger pull on subsequent shots. That's nothing unique to the LEM trigger, it's just something that's is valuable to learn due to the long, but not difficult trigger pull.

[fifthward]

Try pulling the trigger enough to be able to manually cock the hammer...vs completely racking the slide and ejecting the snap cap

this works for me...anyone see anything damaging that this technique could do to the firing mechanisms?

[bigcalidave]

That LEM trigger is a mo'fo'. Get rid of it and make it a standard trigger.

Aaaand, you have no clue what you are talking about....

I absolutely love the LEM trigger I put into my usp compact. It's incredible. The old trigger was OK, but now it's great. Helped bring my groups in considerably with that gun. Only advice? Go shoot it! A lot!

[Old4eyes]

Fifthward,
I honestly don't know if your method of manually cocking the hammer will do any damage. I would suspect not. I simply have learned to get that feel of pulling the slide back enough to cock the hammer. I just go slow and listen/feel for the click.

The P2000 with LEM is a sweet pistol, except for the price. OUCH.

[xLusi0n]

HK recommended that I try the 4.5# trigger and assured me that it was completely safe, no different from the standard except in trigger pull weight. And quite simply, you learn to guard the trigger so nothing touches it except your trigger finger. Kind of like the discipline too many take for granted because their pistol is safe with its external safety lever. Safe until that negligent discharge. With the LEM, it's always hot.

I've been meaning to do it to mine. Only concern I would have is catching on a shirt or something while reholstering...not a big deal on a day to day basis, but when taking a class where you're instructed not to look at your holster, holster fast, and doing it several dozen times a day...it gets riskier.

[fifthward]

Just got back from the range...

In short....I have some work to do! I need practice, practice, practice...but this is the fun part...

Whoever said that mastering the LEM was difficult...wasn't lying. After getting used to the DA/SA on a Sig 226...the LEM is an adjustment.

But overall....I couldn't be happier with the gun. Felt solid, recoil manageable...and no FT"nuthins" !

[CharAznable]

I shot a rented P2000 LEM at the range and just didn't like it, so I bought the DA/SA v3. I do love that gun.

[Saym14]

should be sim to the XD shoudlnt it?