15rd Mags

[Ripper]

I posted this question in the general discussion forum also. If you bought a pistol in 1990, brand spaken new and it is registered to you and it came from the factory with 15rd mags. Is it still LEGAL to have and shoot this Hi Cap mags in your pistol. Thanks

[-R-]

I posted this question in the general discussion forum also. If you bought a pistol in 1990, brand spaken new and it is registered to you and it came from the factory with 15rd mags. Is it still LEGAL to have and shoot this Hi Cap mags in your pistol. Thanks

Yup perfectly legal.

[civilsnake]

Yes it is.

If you happened to buy a new version of the same pistol you could use the hi-cap magazines in the new one, too.

[iBlake]

If my dad bought a beretta before the ban and it came with 3 hi-cap magazines, if he transfers me the gun (which he is going to), can I legally use the magazines? Even if it were legal, would it be worth using them in the event that I may someday be hassled for them?

[Gio]

If my dad bought a beretta before the ban and it came with 3 hi-cap magazines, if he transfers me the gun (which he is going to), can I legally use the magazines? Even if it were legal, would it be worth using them in the event that I may someday be hassled for them?

you cannot receive the mags from your dad. You can get them as kits, and use them outside of CA but not in CA. You will be forced to buy 10 round mags for it. Stupid laws, but then again I could be wrong on that but I do not think I am.

-Gio

[dachan]

If my dad bought a beretta before the ban and it came with 3 hi-cap magazines, if he transfers me the gun (which he is going to), can I legally use the magazines? Even if it were legal, would it be worth using them in the event that I may someday be hassled for them?

You can use them but he must maintain possession of them at all times, which means he must be with with you when you go shooting.

Note that this means when he transfers the gun to you, he must keep the magazines and cannot legally give them to you with the gun. You must go out and purchase some 10rnd magazines. Or he can disassemble the magazines and give them to you as rebuild kits. You then can permanently convert them to 10rnd magazines to use with your gun. It will be illegal for you to reassemble them into hi-cap magazines when in CA.

Time for a rant: All these folks currently buying rebuild kits and assembling them into new hi-cap mags are breaking the law. Sure you can say its up to the justice system to prove you didn't own them prior to Jan 01, 2000 but lets see how believable you sound when you try to tell the judge your father gave them to you when you were 12 years old. And if prosecutors are not successful, the law will be changed and those openings available for legitimate purchases of rebuild kits will no longer be available. Don't like a law, work to repeal it, don't break it.

[iBlake]

Awesome, thanks guys, that makes it pretty clear. It sucks, but so do most gun related laws in CA.

[B Strong]

I posted this question in the general discussion forum also. If you bought a pistol in 1990, brand spaken new and it is registered to you and it came from the factory with 15rd mags. Is it still LEGAL to have and shoot this Hi Cap mags in your pistol. Thanks

Legal.

[B Strong]

You can use them but he must maintain possession of them at all times, which means he must be with with you when you go shooting.

Note that this means when he transfers the gun to you, he must keep the magazines and cannot legally give them to you with the gun. You must go out and purchase some 10rnd magazines. Or he can disassemble the magazines and give them to you as rebuild kits. You then can permanently convert them to 10rnd magazines to use with your gun. It will be illegal for you to reassemble them into hi-cap magazines when in CA.

Time for a rant: All these folks currently buying rebuild kits and assembling them into new hi-cap mags are breaking the law. Sure you can say its up to the justice system to prove you didn't own them prior to Jan 01, 2000 but lets see how believable you sound when you try to tell the judge your father gave them to you when you were 12 years old. And if prosecutors are not successful, the law will be changed and those openings available for legitimate purchases of rebuild kits will no longer be available. Don't like a law, work to repeal it, don't break it.

Since there has been a grand total of One prosecution that I'm aware of in the S.F. bay area for post-2000 high-cap possession (pot grower, AW by features, pipe bomb, high-caps. Moved to California in 04-05 iirc) high cap possession prosecutions don't seem to be on anybody's front burner.

[dachan]

Since there has been a grand total of One prosecution that I'm aware of in the S.F. bay area for post-2000 high-cap possession (pot grower, AW by features, pipe bomb, high-caps. Moved to California in 04-05 iirc) high cap possession prosecutions don't seem to be on anybody's front burner.

Not so much the number of prosecutions I'm concerned about, but that one day somebody is going to notice that the number of hi-cap magazines on the streets is still increasing despite the law, and we're going to wind up with a tougher law which prevents legitimate acquisition of rebuild kits.

[B Strong]

Not so much the number of prosecutions I'm concerned about, but that one day somebody is going to notice that the number of hi-cap magazines on the streets is still increasing despite the law, and we're going to wind up with a tougher law which prevents legitimate acquisition of rebuild kits.

Impossible to prove.

There is no census of high capacity mags, and there is no reporting critera and maintanence of a high-cap magazine incident database.

[Pixs]

I might buy the gun, go out and buy a 10 round magazine, then take the trash out for my dad. After all what is he going to do with them but throw them away.

[FNH5-7]

Hi cap magazines are not transferable, rebuilt kits are different.

[civilsnake]

I might buy the gun, go out and buy a 10 round magazine, then take the trash out for my dad. After all what is he going to do with them but throw them away.

The perfect plan, right up until you posted it on a public Internet forum.

[Turo]

Time for a rant: All these folks currently buying rebuild kits and assembling them into new hi-cap mags are breaking the law. Sure you can say its up to the justice system to prove you didn't own them prior to Jan 01, 2000 but lets see how believable you sound when you try to tell the judge your father gave them to you when you were 12 years old. And if prosecutors are not successful, the law will be changed and those openings available for legitimate purchases of rebuild kits will no longer be available. Don't like a law, work to repeal it, don't break it.

I take issue with this part. My dad bought me a whole load of high cap magazines when he heard that the law was changing. I was 11 at the time. Then I didn't really know why he did it, but I'm dang glad he did now. There were LOTS of people who bought high cap magazines for their kids before the law went into effect.
So no, it's not unbelievable that someone would give an 11 year old high capacity magazines. So please keep that opinion to yourself.