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  • gorenut
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 3072

    Best home defense round for .357 or .38sp

    I know I might be opening a huge can of worms here, but I'm looking for possibly specific grains/types/brands for a home defense round in my revolver. I've always just had .357 mags stored because thats usually what I shoot when I go to the range.. but I realize for home defense, that is over-penetration. I'm looking for some JHPs in either caliber. Any suggestions? II own a Ruger Gp100. Thanks.
    Last edited by gorenut; 02-13-2010, 3:34 PM.
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    Sig556swat
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 654

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    • #3
      axhoaxho
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2009
      • 9959

      My personal favorite is the Gold Dot 135g .38 Special +P, to me it is a nice balance of both worlds.

      Regards,

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      • #4
        gorenut
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 3072

        Thanks for the link. The link also helped clarify my main 2 decisions. It was between Gold Dot and Hydra-Shok.

        Originally posted by axhoaxho
        My personal favorite is the Gold Dot 135g .38 Special +P, to me it is a nice balance of both worlds.

        Regards,
        Seconded one of my choices in the Gold Dot. I feel .357 is too much for someone that'll only be a few feet away from me.
        Last edited by gorenut; 02-13-2010, 3:30 PM.

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        • #5
          andalusi
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 421

          Originally posted by gorenut
          I know I might be opening a huge can of worms here, but I'm looking for possibly specific grains/types/brands for a home defense round in my revolver. I've always just had .357 mags stored because thats usually what I shoot when I go to the range.. but I realize for home defense, that is over-penetration. I'm looking for some JHPs in either caliber. Any suggestions? II own a Ruger Gp100. Thanks.
          The authors of these two sites put a lot of thought into different ammo options, including for ammo in.357 and .38:



          Myself, I keep .38 +P hollowpoints as my revolver's personal protection ammo. Right now it's WWB as (1) it's cheap and (2) it's what I could actually get my hands on (and still trust), but at some point I'm probably going to upgrade to Speer Gold Dots or Cor-Bon .38 +P 125 grain hollowpoints.

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          • #6
            gorenut
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 3072

            Interesting reads. Definitely invited a new brand into the mix of what I was looking at.. the Cor-Bon. I noticed both those links make no mention of the Speer Gold Dots. Any reason for that?

            Originally posted by andalusi
            The authors of these two sites put a lot of thought into different ammo options, including for ammo in.357 and .38:



            Myself, I keep .38 +P hollowpoints as my revolver's personal protection ammo. Right now it's WWB as (1) it's cheap and (2) it's what I could actually get my hands on (and still trust), but at some point I'm probably going to upgrade to Speer Gold Dots or Cor-Bon .38 +P 125 grain hollowpoints.

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            • #7
              andalusi
              Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 421

              Originally posted by gorenut
              Interesting reads. Definitely invited a new brand into the mix of what I was looking at.. the Cor-Bon. I noticed both those links make no mention of the Speer Gold Dots. Any reason for that?
              Honestly, that made me scratch my head, too. The Gold Dots always seem to have good reviews at the online places where I normally buy my ammo.

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              • #8
                Old4eyes
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 1751

                Note that Speer Gold Dot has 2 different types for self defense in the 38 spcl +p ranks.

                The short barrel round is 135 grain
                On Speer's site it is rated at 860 FPS - 222 ft lbs Energy on a two inch barrel

                The 125 grain for longer barrel:
                945 FPS - 248 ft lbs on a 4 inch barrel.

                So just by the numbers if you've got a longer barrel, you might go for the 125 grain.

                I don't know what the performance will do with the Short Barrel round fired through a longer barrel. One assumes with the longer time in the barrel that more energy will be built up giving higher muzzle velocity.

                Speer also makes a Short barrel 357 magnum round, who's energy values are considerably less than the "standard" gold dot 357 round.

                What length barrel do you have on the Ruger?
                We've got the 38+p short barrel rounds in our S&W 686 2 1/2 barrel.
                Send Lawyers, Guns and Money - On second thought, hold the Lawyers.

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                • #9
                  SJgunguy24
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2008
                  • 14849

                  To be honest, the best round for home defense is the one that stops the bad guy. It could be a 22lr or a 50 BMG, hits in the pump center and the nerve center are the ones that really matter. Use whatever ammo you shoot the best.
                  There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                  The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                  The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                  The others, well......they just never learn.

                  "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                  Patrick Henry.

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                  • #10
                    dunndeal
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5104

                    My Python is loaded with Cor-Bon 125 gr JHP, 1400 fps and 544 ft/lbs of energy. I've yet to fire one in HD so I can't tell you how effective they are but I'll bet they'll do the job if I can hit the target.
                    Those that call the US Constitution a living, breathing document only want to asphyxiate liberty.

                    M76

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                    • #11
                      SJgunguy24
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2008
                      • 14849

                      Originally posted by dunndeal
                      My Python is loaded with Cor-Bon 125 gr JHP, 1400 fps and 544 ft/lbs of energy. I've yet to fire one in HD so I can't tell you how effective they are but I'll bet they'll do the job if I can hit the target.
                      Thats kind of my point. Why would you go with some monster hyper velocity whiz bang round that misses the target?
                      Go with something a little heavier and slower that you know for a fact you can control and your gonna center punch that bad guy.
                      There are 3 kinds of people in this world.
                      The wise, learn from the mistakes of others.
                      The smart, learn from their own mistakes.
                      The others, well......they just never learn.

                      "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, Give Me Liberty, Or Give Me Death!"
                      Patrick Henry.

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                      • #12
                        gorenut
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 3072

                        I have a 6" on my GP100. I'll prob go with the .38sp JHP w/ lower velocity.
                        Last edited by gorenut; 02-13-2010, 6:55 PM.

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                        • #13
                          RedFord150
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 5665

                          Remington .38 +P 125 grain SJHP in my Ruger Speed Six and GP100.
                          CCI .357 mag 158 grain JHP is my SHTF load for my 4" GP100.
                          God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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                          • #14
                            Katana
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 616

                            I wouldn't fire any .357 hotter than Remington Golden Saber 125gr (1220 fps) in the house.

                            I think .38 Spl.+P 158gr SWHP is preferable though, I would like to continue to enjoy music in my old age.

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                            • #15
                              dunndeal
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 5104

                              Originally posted by SJgunguy24
                              Thats kind of my point. Why would you go with some monster hyper velocity whiz bang round that misses the target?
                              Go with something a little heavier and slower that you know for a fact you can control and your gonna center punch that bad guy.
                              Your logic only applies if I miss with the FIRST round.
                              In my personal case my wrists are extremely strong so the recoil hardly affects my aim for the second round.
                              Those that call the US Constitution a living, breathing document only want to asphyxiate liberty.

                              M76

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