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  • MR.R
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 536

    H&K

    can someone tell me the differance between the H&K 45 and the H&K usp? i have heard so many good things about these pistols, i am a 1911 guy but might go in a different direction with my next pistol....
    silver bullets with a wood core dipped in pork... I'm ready for armageddon!!!!
  • #2
    battleship
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 4962

    Really cool and just cool!

    HK 45 is an updated design on the existing USP model, better slide design and grip makes for a better handling gun and it looks pretty nice as well. Trouble is the HK 45 is not on the cal roster so you will have to pay above cost from someone selling one (LEO) probably. Someone here recently had on for sale for around 1300 which is about the lowest price your going to find them for in cal.
    The original plan for the HK 45 was for the US military to take orders for there latest side arm, it was designed with them in mind, but that some how went south. But rather than scraping it HK produced it as there latest 45 for the civilian market.

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    • #3
      Miltiades
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 1148

      The cheaper alternative - USP 45

      As the previous poster mentioned, the HK45 is a new pistol that is not on the CA list, so it can't be bought here through the usual channels. Elsewhere in the US it would cost you about $900, but here it might cost $1300 or so from a LEO using his ability to import such a gun and trying to make a profit on it.

      If I were you I'd look at the older USP 45, which is a fine gun costing a lot less. I got mine used for $550 about 8 years ago, and it has worked perfectly for me.

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      • #4
        Vin496
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2008
        • 8804

        Hk45 on the right with the laser/light combo. USP 45 to the left with white lettering. Basically the same pistol with cosmetic/ergonomic upgrades, HK45 does have a true 1911 rail.

        My biggest gripe with the HK45 was the lousy sights on it, they are not true NS like on the USP/P2000, but a superluminova that requires light to activate them and make them glow, the light slowly dims till it's out over the next hour or so.

        The HK45 is supposed to have a match component in it's trigger, but the trigger felt no different than the USP. I ended up selling the HK45 and kept my USP.

        I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

        and

        If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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        • #5
          Ventura_Yak'r
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 571

          Can the night sites be upgraded on the HK45?

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          • #6
            Juice5610
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 1558

            hey vin how did u get that p30?!

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            • #7
              Vin496
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2008
              • 8804

              Originally posted by Ventura_Yak'r
              Can the night sites be upgraded on the HK45?
              I know Heinie makes the Straight 8, and maybe Trijicon or Metro does now also.

              Originally posted by Juice5610
              hey vin how did u get that p30?!
              Same way I got the HK45 interfamilial transfer. Ended up selling the P30 also.
              I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

              and

              If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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              • #8
                Juice5610
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 1558

                Originally posted by Vin496
                I know Heinie makes the Straight 8, and maybe Trijicon or Metro does now also.



                Same way I got the HK45 interfamilial transfer. Ended up selling the P30 also.
                DAMN! lol I've been looking for a P30L for like 8 months now!

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                • #9
                  408teach
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 58

                  The USP 45's date is coming up next month on the roster. This will be renewed right?

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                  • #10
                    Vin496
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 8804

                    Originally posted by 408teach
                    The USP 45's date is coming up next month on the roster. This will be renewed right?
                    I would imagine so, it is still a popular seller and all they have to do it pay for the Roster renewal. If they renewed the P7M8 that they don't even make anymore, I wouldn't think they would let the USP lapse.
                    I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

                    and

                    If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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                    • #11
                      Black Majik
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 9695

                      Originally posted by MR.R
                      can someone tell me the differance between the H&K 45 and the H&K usp? .
                      Oh about $500 +/- CA premium.

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                      • #12
                        HCz
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 3295

                        I'd say ergonomics. USP has a grip comparable to a 2x4, and magazine release is smaller. HK45 has interchangable back straps, better ergonomics.

                        For general purpose the difference isn't much. But after trying my P30L's magazine release, my P2000's magazine release ins't cutting it for me.

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                        • #13
                          drunktank
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 5461

                          I prefer the usp's grips. Plus the use of my prebans on my 9.

                          WTB used AK MFER.

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                          • #14
                            galabomber
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 929

                            I was wondering the same thing. I like the USP 45c, but I have a feeling once I hold the HK 45c, I'll regret getting the USP.

                            Anyone in the Sacramento/Elk Grove area have a HK 45c???

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                            • #15
                              bshnt2015
                              Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 215

                              Trijicon and Heine makes night sights for HK45. Great pistol, feels great in the hand compared with the G21 or G21SF.

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