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  • Malmon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 1178

    Red Dot Sight on a pistol

    Any experience in having one? I plan to install it on a Para Ordnance P14-45 limited and a Beretta 92. After getting the GSG-5 last month, it has revitalized my interest in shooting again. I installed a red dot reflex sight on that rifle and it is so easy to use, no need to find the front sight and align it. Just point and shoot. After almost a decade of hibernation, I am planning to update the sights on a couple of pistols.

    Advice or comments are much appreciated.
  • #2
    paul0660
    In Memoriam
    • Jul 2007
    • 15669

    I got to shoot one on a Beretta 92 at about 50 yards. You are right, it makes it a breeze for hitting cans and such, but I think the dot is 4-5 moa so for groups on paper you might not do so well.
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    • #3
      i1800collect
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1814

      just a bit of searching...



      thread on the exact same topic from a couple days ago.

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      • #4
        JTROKS
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2007
        • 13093

        You are referring to one of the slide mounted red dot like this one:


        Pros: Compact and very light, durable, easy to mount if the mounting pads are available, makes hitting with your pistol easier - faster than iron sights.

        Cons: Battery powered, small screen reflex so it requires practice/muscle memory to acquire the dot faster than tube sights. Consistency gripping the gun is a must for fast dot acquisition. Auto adjusting dot intensity could be too much or not enough for your taste. When sun is behind you and reflects the sunlight just right you'll get a bright reflection on your screen making the dot hard to pick out of. Constant checking or the mount to ensure it's not coming loose. On some unit/brand it requires taking off the sight to change batteries.

        Overall, it is usable. For me I'd rather have a frame mounted reflex sight.
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        • #5
          Malmon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1178

          Originally posted by JTROKS
          You are referring to one of the slide mounted red dot like this one:


          Pros: Compact and very light, durable, easy to mount if the mounting pads are available, makes hitting with your pistol easier - faster than iron sights.

          Cons: Battery powered, small screen reflex so it requires practice/muscle memory to acquire the dot faster than tube sights. Consistency gripping the gun is a must for fast dot acquisition. Auto adjusting dot intensity could be too much or not enough for your taste. When sun is behind you and reflects the sunlight just right you'll get a bright reflection on your screen making the dot hard to pick out of. Constant checking or the mount to ensure it's not coming loose. On some unit/brand it requires taking off the sight to change batteries.

          Overall, it is usable. For me I'd rather have a frame mounted reflex sight.
          That is exactly what I was thinking of putting into the Para, amazon has it for about $200, and the mount from docters will be about $60.

          Anybody has one of these installed?

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          • #6
            Malmon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1178

            Originally posted by i1800collect
            just a bit of searching...



            thread on the exact same topic from a couple days ago.
            Thanks for the link.

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            • #7
              Malmon
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 1178

              Installed

              After some research, these are the facts that I have gathered.
              1. JPoint - made of plastic frame and lens, weighs 0.5 ounce, costs $150 for the sight and $40 for the mount.
              2. Burris - made of aluminum frame and glass lens, weighs 1.5 ounces, costs $199 for the sight and $40 for the mount.
              3. Docter - same specs as Burris, costs $400 for the sight and $50 for the mount.

              I went with the....

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              • #8
                RogueSniper
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3749

                Nice! I think you now need to go out and shoot it! Post a pic of the POV through your site while at the range and let's see your groupings with it.
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                • #9
                  a.tinkerer
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 808

                  Where can I buy a JPoint for $150.00?


                  Malmon Said:
                  "
                  After some research, these are the facts that I have gathered.
                  1. JPoint - made of plastic frame and lens, weighs 0.5 ounce, costs $150 for the sight and $40 for the mount.
                  2. Burris - made of aluminum frame and glass lens, weighs 1.5 ounces, costs $199 for the sight and $40 for the mount.
                  3. Docter - same specs as Burris, costs $400 for the sight and $50 for the mount.
                  "


                  I've been looking for that kind of deal on a JPoint.
                  A response to this thread or a PM to me would be great.





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                  • #10
                    a.tinkerer
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 808

                    Anyone here know where to get a JPoint for $150.00?








                    Cheers
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                    Originally posted by gcvt
                    This is how Penthouse Forum stories start.
                    Originally posted by Caligula36
                    Dear lord, please let there be butt stuff involved.

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                    • #11
                      Buck'emDown78
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 53

                      A really good red dot sight that was specifically made for combat situations rather than competition and target shooting is the MEPROLIGHT reflex sight. I know they can take ALOT of punishment since specialized units in our own military and swat units use them, Israeli Special forces, and many of the best tactical instructors in the US who decide to use dot sights go with MEPROLIGHT.

                      One of the benefits that many direct action units and tactical instructors find benificial is that the sight aperture and dot do not change from rifle to pistol if using a MEPROLIGHT. So no matter what gun you are using or during weapons transition, you are looking down the same familiar sighting system.

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                      • #12
                        Malmon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1178

                        Originally posted by a.tinkerer
                        Where can I buy a JPoint for $150.00?


                        Malmon Said:
                        "
                        After some research, these are the facts that I have gathered.
                        1. JPoint - made of plastic frame and lens, weighs 0.5 ounce, costs $150 for the sight and $40 for the mount.
                        2. Burris - made of aluminum frame and glass lens, weighs 1.5 ounces, costs $199 for the sight and $40 for the mount.
                        3. Docter - same specs as Burris, costs $400 for the sight and $50 for the mount.
                        "


                        I've been looking for that kind of deal on a JPoint.
                        A response to this thread or a PM to me would be great.





                        Cheers
                        Tinker
                        Here you go:

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                        • #13
                          Malmon
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1178

                          Originally posted by RogueSniper
                          Nice! I think you now need to go out and shoot it! Post a pic of the POV through your site while at the range and let's see your groupings with it.
                          I run 200 rounds last time and the sight stayed put, I'll try to take a pic next time.

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                          • #14
                            glock_this
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 8225

                            Originally posted by Malmon
                            That is exactly what I was thinking of putting into the Para, amazon has it for about $200, and the mount from docters will be about $60.

                            Anybody has one of these installed?
                            for those looking... Try optics plant and use bx5sm9s for 5% off.. I am also looking at one of these right now with Glock mount and picatiny mount

                            or eBay has them at about 199 + free ship and then mounts for around $40

                            just scored the FF II + glock mount for $222 shipped
                            Last edited by glock_this; 12-02-2009, 10:09 AM.
                            10 +1 in the chamber

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                            • #15
                              Malmon
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1178

                              If you are thinking of using the Burris red dot for home defense, forget about it. Just got back from the range, and for some reason the red dot disappeared after 3 boxes (150 rounds). Initially I thought it was because I was holding the pistol at the wrong angle, I have to play around with the on/off switch to make it turn back on. It is not as reliable as I thought it would be.

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