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  • #16
    Rust
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 697

    Another thing I just thought of, and someone else should confirm this as I'm not positive. But doesn't the SA have the higher beaver tail than the DA/SA? It may just be the SP-01 with the higher sweep. It's the one thing that has always bothered me about my CZ. After enough rounds (mine's 40 sw may be less of an issue if you go 9mm) the back of my hand starts to hurt from the point of the beaver tail digging into it. If I had the purchase to make over again I may have bought the SA, and then traded or bought the DA/SA parts for what I view as the more comfortable frame.

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    • #17
      rivviepop
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 2528

      Originally posted by Rust
      But doesn't the SA have the higher beaver tail than the DA/SA?
      Yes it does -- sweeping upwards beavertail, extended D-shaped magazine release and the larger ambidextrous safety. The SA also has a full-size nose (like the SP-01 and PCR-D) all the way out and a steel 1/2 length guide rod instead of plastic. By your thoughts getting a SA and converting it to DA (hammer, sear, 85 combat trigger with overtravel, etc.) would make a nice DA gun.

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      • #18
        nn3453
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 2245

        Originally posted by rivviepop
        Depends what you like -- it's inexpensive, utterly reliable, eats any ammo you feed it and is more accurate than I'll ever be; I think it's a perfect IDPA ESP gun once you put some minor work into it (sights, etc.). 75B DA for SSP, 75B SA for ESP.
        +1

        Also the SP-01 for SSP (after getting it down to 39oz).

        For a HD gun, the CZ is perfect. Utterly reliable.
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        • #19
          Catalyst81
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 527

          Originally posted by rivviepop
          As the others said, DA/SA for HD use. The SA is a great gun as well, just not for your intended use. You can get a 75B DA/SA from CZcustom for $497 total (free shipping), so just pay your local dealer fees and you get the gun for far below shelf cost at most shops once you add tax & DROS.



          This is an '09 model with the newer recurve silver trigger on it that's more akin the the SP-01/P-01 in shape and feel, not the older less-curved trigger from like an '07 model. I love every CZ I own.
          Thanks for the link and thanks to everyone else for the advice. The SP-01 is looking tempting as well.
          Last edited by Catalyst81; 11-12-2009, 2:33 PM.
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          • #20
            mblat
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 3344

            Originally posted by rivviepop
            Depends what you like -- it's inexpensive, utterly reliable, eats any ammo you feed it and is more accurate than I'll ever be; I think it's a perfect IDPA ESP gun once you put some minor work into it (sights, etc.). 75B DA for SSP, 75B SA for ESP.
            I am myself big cz75 fan. I believe that before they have raised prices it was the best buy on the market for the segment. That is probably the only gun I will never let go. But I have it in DA/SA.
            I only wish they they would come up with single stack gun, ala Kahr. I had RAMI and for it's purpose (CCW) it was a bit too wide and heavy.
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            • #21
              traptrix
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 78

              My first gun was the CZ 75B DA/SA. It's great, I cannot fault it.

              You definitely want to aim to get the Kadet kit, it's brilliant. It takes about 20 seconds to swap between 9mm and .22LR.

              I got my Kadet kit from http://czcustom.com

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              • #22
                Hollow Grind
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 1091

                Originally posted by smittty
                IMO, DA/SA is the way to go but the 75B is an all steel gun. I recommend getting one of the lighter alloy framed guns such as the PCR model or the P-01.

                After owning many many handguns I think one of the best guns to own is the CZ 75D PCR (9mm) and I recommend getting the 22 LR Kadet conversion for it. I have the Kadet kit for my P-01 and it's truely outstanding. It's easily the best 22 pistol under $1K.

                Smitty
                Smitty, am I correct in reading you like the CZ 75D PCR over the P-01? I'm on the verge of buying the latter, but I'd like to hear you elaborate on the differences between the two.

                My understanding is the PCR has no rail and a cast, rather than forged, alloy frame, otherwise identical. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
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                • #23
                  Gary13
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1523

                  I just purchased a SP01 yesterday. Looking forward to shooting it soon.

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                  • #24
                    rivviepop
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 2528

                    Originally posted by Hollow Grind
                    My understanding is the PCR has no rail and a cast, rather than forged, alloy frame, otherwise identical. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
                    There are other minor differences - some are trivial:

                    - PCR D has a loaded chamber indicator
                    - P-01 has a longer slide stop handle
                    - rear slide serrations on P-01 are vertical, PCR D are slanted

                    The more noticeable differences are:

                    - PCR D has a snag free rear sight with the top of the slide milled to allow it to fit
                    - P-01 has a recurve trigger, PCR D has a serrated beveled one

                    Here's a quick shot of them side by side for an easier comparison - both are fantastic in my opinion.

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                    • #25
                      sixniner
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 517

                      Saw this on CZ site

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                      • #26
                        jarhead995
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1209

                        Whats SA and whats DA?

                        I just got back from turners and really liked the CZ 75 and my dad said I could get it for Hanukah if I paid for some of it.

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                        • #27
                          HCz
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3295

                          SA = Single Action = trigger pull releases hammer only
                          DA = Double action = trigger pull cocks and release hammer

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                          • #28
                            loudninja
                            Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 136

                            Originally posted by rivviepop
                            There are other minor differences - some are trivial:

                            - PCR D has a loaded chamber indicator
                            - P-01 has a longer slide stop handle
                            - rear slide serrations on P-01 are vertical, PCR D are slanted

                            The more noticeable differences are:

                            - PCR D has a snag free rear sight with the top of the slide milled to allow it to fit
                            - P-01 has a recurve trigger, PCR D has a serrated beveled one

                            Here's a quick shot of them side by side for an easier comparison - both are fantastic in my opinion.

                            sweet pistols!
                            the pcr looks way cleaner, (ie, matching slide serrations, no rail, ramped sight.) if i got extra change, id go for it in a second.

                            p-01 is more practical with the rail. which is why i got it

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                            • #29
                              rivviepop
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 2528

                              Originally posted by loudninja
                              sweet pistols!
                              the pcr looks way cleaner, (ie, matching slide serrations, no rail, ramped sight.) if i got extra change, id go for it in a second.
                              I took the PCR D to an IDPA match back in July (stock gun, no work) and placed really well using it, like 13th out of 35 or something like that. (I'm only a Sharpshooter) Gun is tight.

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                              • #30
                                Hollow Grind
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 1091

                                Ergonomically, are they identical? Which do you prefer, rivviepop, and why?
                                You rise, you fall, you're down and you rise again. What don't kill you make you more strong!

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