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  • #16
    diginit
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 3250

    22 = High velocity. Bounces off bones. You don't know where it will exit. Too much luck involved. 9mm = slow. Stops when it hits a hard object. Not enough velocity to knock 'em over. Get a 45 and knock criminals backwards with one round to the chest.

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    • #17
      locosway
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2009
      • 11346

      Originally posted by diginit
      22 = High velocity. Bounces off bones. You don't know where it will exit. Too much luck involved. 9mm = slow. Stops when it hits a hard object. Not enough velocity to knock 'em over. Get a 45 and knock criminals backwards with one round to the chest.
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      • #18
        coop44
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 1445

        Originally posted by diginit
        22 = High velocity. Bounces off bones. You don't know where it will exit. Too much luck involved. 9mm = slow. Stops when it hits a hard object. Not enough velocity to knock 'em over. Get a 45 and knock criminals backwards with one round to the chest.
        have you ever been shot?
        All you Know is probably what you read online, and we all know the internet is full of experts.
        "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws" From Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand

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        • #19
          rogers017
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 414

          Originally posted by Mr.CRC
          Yeah, I can find out if there are ranges close that rent. The one in Livermore which is closest doesn't.

          Oh, I only meant a .22 target pistol isn't the greatest for SD/HD.
          Targetmasters in Milpitas rents handguns. But they make you shoot their ammo. You also have to have a second person with you, they no longer rent to a single person.
          ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
          Originally posted by santacruzstefan
          No, I never had good enough dexterity to play with the sack.

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          • #20
            civilsnake
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 2261

            Originally posted by diginit
            22 = High velocity. Bounces off bones. You don't know where it will exit. Too much luck involved. 9mm = slow. Stops when it hits a hard object. Not enough velocity to knock 'em over. Get a 45 and knock criminals backwards with one round to the chest.
            ...que?
            Then another horse PONY came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a huge sword. My kinda guy.

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            • #21
              bigcalidave
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2009
              • 4489

              Lol. Yay! I made it in time for this one!

              Deagle!

              sorry

              Wtf .22 bounces off bones? 9mm slow? Knock em over? Have you shot ANYTHING? At least go to discovery channel and watch the mythbusters show where they try to knock things over by shooting them.
              ...

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              • #22
                ThatFishGuy
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 1084

                hrrmmm... last i checked 9mm shoots faster than .45acp. maybe thats just me.

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                • #23
                  sevensix2x51
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3835

                  still waiting for OP to post his location. did i miss it in digerprairiedog's propwash? anyways, i havent been shot by anything but paintballs and pellet guns, but based on my local sheriff's department and the CHP, i have a .40 for home defense. i think .22lr is the worst thing ever for home defense, next to a wet carrot.

                  OP- if youre in the san diego area, you can shoot some 357/40sw with me, if you shoot me a pm. id be glad to take a couple weapons out to the range, or to blm for some ballistics tests on produce

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                  • #24
                    locosway
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 11346

                    I can think of a few reasons to use a .22, of course none of which are legal.
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                    • #25
                      sevensix2x51
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3835

                      Originally posted by locosway
                      I can think of a few reasons to use a .22, of course none of which are legal.
                      i guess you can cut the rim off and snort cocaine with it....

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                      • #26
                        Mr.CRC
                        Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 175

                        Originally posted by sevensix2x51
                        still waiting for OP to post his location. did i miss it in digerprairiedog's propwash? anyways, i havent been shot by anything but paintballs and pellet guns, but based on my local sheriff's department and the CHP, i have a .40 for home defense. i think .22lr is the worst thing ever for home defense, next to a wet carrot.

                        OP- if youre in the san diego area, you can shoot some 357/40sw with me, if you shoot me a pm. id be glad to take a couple weapons out to the range, or to blm for some ballistics tests on produce
                        Thanks for the offer. I'm in Livermore, though.
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                        • #27
                          Mr.CRC
                          Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 175

                          Originally posted by rogers017
                          Targetmasters in Milpitas rents handguns. But they make you shoot their ammo. You also have to have a second person with you, they no longer rent to a single person.
                          I hear a lot of complaints about that place. I'll keep it mind though.

                          I think the plan will be to take the pistol and shotgun classes upcoming at my local range.

                          Getting some chances to try different handguns might be more of a challenge. I may just buy the target pistol, then spend some time to decide on a SD/HD tool.
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                          Mr. CRC

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                          • #28
                            sevensix2x51
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3835

                            Originally posted by Mr.CRC
                            Thanks for the offer. I'm in Livermore, though.
                            thanks brother! ok, livermore guys, show our brother where it's at!! i think most respectful folk can get a couple shooting buddies from this site, so dont make a liar out of me!!

                            ps- as far as not renting to a single person, a lot of ranges will only rent to a lone shooter if they bring their own firearm with them. if you think about it, it makes a lot of sense.




                            if you cant figure out why, the word "suicide" kind of comes to mind...

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                            • #29
                              Renshai
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 63

                              I agree...the .22 is a GREAT way to learn for a frist gun...The Mk series from Ruger was my first as well!!! No recoil to speak of so you get to learn great trigger habits (as long as you learn right because if you do "the bad things" when shooting ti will be VERY apparent with the .22 and you can afford to shoot ALL day to get the "feel" for a handgun. Then try as many as you can, even if you just go to a store and pick up EVERY gun in the store, get one that is comfortable, that you can actually use (ie clean, store and put into action reliably) and that will be the best gun in the world. Caliber is a small issue. I second the notion that I don't care if you and a 1.2" custom super stupid gun and miss, its no better than a .25NAA..If you can hit with it reliably, that's better than having a cliber or handgun that you can't hit with reliably everytime.

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                              • #30
                                rogers017
                                Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 414

                                Originally posted by Mr.CRC
                                Thanks for the offer. I'm in Livermore, though.

                                I would be more than happy to bring out Browning Buck Mark for you to try. Even my 1911 if you would like.

                                I live in Hayward and could meet you in Livermore, CV, San Leandro or Milpitas if you like.
                                ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
                                Originally posted by santacruzstefan
                                No, I never had good enough dexterity to play with the sack.

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