10mm for Game

[DucRider749S]

so a friend of mine wants a 10mm glock (full size) to be his only handgun.

I said 10mm was a bad choice, to expensive to shoot on regular basis compared to 40 or 45.

but then he said he can use it to hunt deer or pig, I said that was crazy.

Am I missing something?

I went on to say if you can only own one handgun a 1911 is better then a glock, you get a 45 or 9mm or 22 and a metal frame
It will be more accurate and a better invetment

[Argonaut]

You have it right...................

[DarkHorse]

It's only a better investment if he prefers a 1911 over a Glock.

If he really wants a Glock, and you talk him into a 1911, then he'll have wasted his money.

[BamBam-31]

Yes, you can use 10mm to hunt game. Heavier bullets are needed though (180+ grs.). He can do what I did: Buy a G21 (or G21sf) and get a 10mm conversion barrel for it. Best of both worlds.

[technique]

10mm will kill just about anything dead. I have shot a hog with a 10mm.....it ain't pretty.

[Argonaut]

Probably I am in the minority here......I don't believe in experimenting with sub power guns in the taking of game. (I think archery hunting should be illegal too) It is about the cleanest humane kill to me. Pistols can be effective but how many people have the patience to get close enough for a clean accurate kill? (My problem with Archers) I have killed several deer that had been injured by being shot at from long distance later in the season. Several that carried arrows, the wounds had gang green.....and some that had just plain poor shots, a leg broken up for instance. I find people that refuse to become proficient with or choose less than adequate weapons to take game immoral in the extreme. A clean kill is the FIRST responsibility of a hunter. Hand guns are difficult to master (Like a Bow) there are few people that will put in the time and possess the temperament to use them properly on Game.

[Super Spy]

You can get a 40 conversion barrel for the 10mm Glock and it will even use the same mags. The case is the same diameter so the extractor lines up correctly too.

[hybridatsun350]

Probably I am in the minority here......I don't believe in experimenting with sub power guns in the taking of game. (I think archery hunting should be illegal too) It is about the cleanest humane kill to me. Pistols can be effective but how many people don't have the patience to get close enough for a clean accurate kill? (My problem with Archers) I have killed several deer that had been injured by being shot at from long distance later in the season. Several that carried arrows, the wounds had gang green.....and some that had just plain poor shots, a leg broken up for instance. I find people that refuse to become proficient with or choose less than adequate weapons to take game immoral in the extreme. A clean kill is the FIRST responsibility of a hunter. Hand guns are difficult to master (Like a Bow) there are few people that will put in the time and possess the temperament to use them properly on Game.

Excellent point. I'm 100% with you with the exception of bow hunting being illegal. There are those who are proficient in the sport and should be allowed to practice it. There are too many people who can't even shoot a damn rifle properly!

[Argonaut]

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Excellent point. I'm 100% with you with the exception of bow hunting being illegal. There are those who are proficient in the sport and should be allowed to practice it. There are too many people who can't even shoot a damn rifle properly!

I agree with that too....(both points) The problem is how do you weed the bad guys out? In Idaho we frequently do it by the presence of a California Licence plate.......Like the time the "Californian" came up to us while elk hunting in the Northern part of the state and asked if we could use our horses to help him get out the cow elk he had shot out........We rode down to see what he had......There she was, a shod (as in steel shoes) molly mule, all dressed out........................

[BamBam-31]

^^^Sad but true.

My neighbor tells me when deer season starts here in CA, some ranchers have to spray paint "C-O-W" on their cows just to save them from overzealous city folk wild w/ buck fever.

ETA: Err, and I'm sure a 10mm would take out both cow and deer given proper shot placement. Also, I wouldn't rule out Glocks simply because they're polymer. Tons of Glocks have very high round counts and still perform admirably. If parts wear out, they're cheap and easy to replace. The .40-10mm conversion mentioned above is another good idea. A .40/.45 Glock plus conversion barrel will probably run about as much as a decent 1911 anyways, plus you get the benefit of two calibers. I have a KKM conversion barrel for my G21sf, and it's been both reliable and accurate. Given that your friend is thinking of possibly taking the pistol with him on hunting trips, I'd also give the nod to Glock (Drop the Glock, wipe it off, then re-holster. Drop a 1911, wipe it off, wipe your tears, then re-holster.)

[tube_ee]

The 10mm and the .357 Magnum...

The cartridges are considered to be almost identical, ballistically.

The .357 Magnum, properly loaded, is capable of cleanly taking California deer and meat-sized hogs at any range that any of us has any business shooting an open-sighted handgun at game.

Now, whether the Glock is the best platform for hunting use, I don't know, as I've never had the slightest interest in owning one... in any caliber. Those who own them are therefore better qualified to testify as to accuracy, packability, and all of the other things that matter in a field gun. I'll never know.

But cartridge will clearly get the job done, and get it done well. I'd even go so far as to say that the 10mm is the only autopistol round suitable for use in the game fields. Survival situations are different, of course... but that's not what we're talking about here.

--Shannon

[supersonic]

I'd even go so far as to say that the 10mm is the only autopistol round suitable for use in the game fields.

--Shannon

I'd go so far as to agree with you 100%. The power of the 10MM is phenomenal compared to all other auto pistol cartridges. I have developed a load using a Hornady XTP 200 gr. bullet that travels just North of 1300 fps. @ the muzzle. That's POWER. In a related topic, Ted Nugent was recently documented in Africa using his G20 to drop a charging Cape Buffalo @ approx. 15 feet with 4 rapid-fire shots to the forehead. -- Yeah, the 10mm is just fine for hunting. As long as you know HOW to hunt w/ a handgun.

[freakshow10mm]

Been using a 10mm pistol for hunting for the last 7 years. I also carry it as my every day carry gun.

The 10mm is definitely the ballistic twin of the .357 Mag. Those that say it's a 41 Mag don't know what they are talking about.

I've killed small game, deer (over 200lbs), black bear (380lb and 425lb) and some feral dogs with my 10mms over the years. If you put the bullet in the right spot it will do the trick.

My small game load uses a 135gr Nosler JHP. My coyote load is a 155gr XTP, the deer load is a 180gr XTP and the bear load is a 200gr XTP. I've also taken small game with a home case 150gr SWC and one deer with my custom 225gr SWC. Haven't tried the Gold Dots on game yet but that's on the list.

If one handloads (or purchases custom ammo) the 10mm can match the performance of the 9mm, 40 S&W, 357 SIG, and 45 ACP as well as run full power as Norma intended.

I say get the 10mm and plink with .40s to save money. I'm a 1911 guy (way better trigger and grip angle) than a Glock, but have him shoot both and see what he likes.

My 10mm is a 1911.

[CalNRA]

nothing wrong with hunting smaller game with a 10mm. They can be loaded as hot as 357mag as mentioned above very easily. No one says 357 is weak, so no reason to dump on the 10mm.

Reliability is the only possible reason to go with a wheelgun over a semiauto pistol, for a quick follow up shot in case your life depended on it. But then again if you are hunting with a pistol I hope you got a buddy with a 12GA nearby.

[sargenv]

Actually, if handloaded, you can hot rod the 10 mm cartridge to near 41 magnum performance. That likely would take a Revolver to do since I'm not sure I'd trust a heavy bullet loaded hot in a Glock OR a 1911 frame. The original Norma load of a 200 gr bullet @ 1200 fps cracked many a 1911 frame/slide. There are some cast bullets available to 220 gr. That too would likely require a Revolver (S&W 610 6.5").

It would do a number on pig/boar or deer with the proper shot placement.