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  • LkPillsburyDude
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 921

    Found a VERY interesting 1911, need help identifying.

    I went to my grandfathers tonight for dinner. He owes a winery and his foreman Francisco and I got to talking about guns. He was born in Mexico and came to the US when he was around 12, he bought this handgun in the 80s in LA and had it shipped up here. He was looking for a 38 super but what he bought was a 7.62x25 1911. I wish i had a picture but didnt have a camera on me. I have never heard such a thing so I just got home, looked it up and found nothing. The 1911 is a Colt, and has a saddle ring lookin thing by the magazine floorplate. Were these ever produced commercially?
  • #2
    brassburnz
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 3553

    The Star Modelo was chambered for 9mm Largo. The Star looks like a Colt 1911 derivative. It would have been possible to chamber a Colt 1911 in 9mm Largo.
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    • #3
      LkPillsburyDude
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 921

      Huh, cuz I'm POSITIVE it said Colt on the gun and it had old colt grips too. On gunbroker right now there is a handmade vietnam bringback barrel for a 1911 in 7.62x25.

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      • #4
        Mr. Beretta
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2005
        • 6614

        I'd love to see a pic.

        The most popular semi auto I've ever seen in 7.62. x 25 was the Soviet Tokarev. I've never seen a genuine factory Colt in this caliber.

        FYI....The Tokarev has a landyard ring on the bottom near the mag well and it was a copy of John Browning's 1903 automatic pistol.

        Hopefully a Colt guy will chime in soon and educate us all.

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        • #5
          LkPillsburyDude
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 921

          Yea, I am familair with Tokarevs, my jaw litteraly dropped when I saw this, I KNEW it had to be rare. He said he paid 500 bucks for it.

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          • #6
            Capaholic
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 118

            That would be pretty cool to see. A friend was telling me about his grandpa in Mexico having a "siete punto" or "seven point" Colt 1911... it supposedly has checkering all over the place, hammer, slide, mag release... I haven't been able to find any info.

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            • #7
              Fantasma
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 3077

              Come on man, Pictures....

              With today's technology you should have asked to take a pictures with your cell phone camera..lol

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              • #8
                B Strong
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                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2009
                • 6367

                I know that the Chinese converted captured 1911A1's to 7.62x25, but to the best of my knowledge Colt never manufactured a factory piece in that caliber.
                The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
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                • #9
                  1923mack
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 588

                  A $500 handgun in the 80's was a pricey handgun. Was it the slide, barrel or frame that was marked Colt? 38 super top ends were available for the Colts, and one might be able to modify one of those. Not sure about the extractor though.

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                  • #10
                    LkPillsburyDude
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 921

                    The slide was marked Colt and it was wearing old colt grips. I know, I should have used my cell phone...

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                    • #11
                      Bigballaizm
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3109

                      Originally posted by B Strong
                      I know that the Chinese converted captured 1911A1's to 7.62x25, but to the best of my knowledge Colt never manufactured a factory piece in that caliber.
                      To my knowledge BStrong is accurate! You need to bust out some pics bro...
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                      • #12
                        rp55
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1823

                        Originally posted by B Strong
                        I know that the Chinese converted captured 1911A1's to 7.62x25, but to the best of my knowledge Colt never manufactured a factory piece in that caliber.
                        Not only did the Chinese convert captured 1911's, the Vietnamese used to fabricate them from scratch out of bar stock. They would dismantle a 1911 and send the parts around to little shops where they would serve as a pattern and be copied by hand. Like how they do it in Pakistan today. Of course they tried to duplicate it exactly and they would try to copy the lettering and logo as well. They may have made a few in 7.62x25 either new or copy. Some of those homemade 45's were captured and brought back as war trophies. I saw one at a gun show in the mid-70's and as I recall it was priced at $11,000. That was when a Singer Sewing Machine manufactured 1911 could be had for $1700-3000.
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                        • #13
                          Greg-Dawg
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 7793

                          It's a Mak.

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                          • #14
                            Fantasma
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 3077

                            Originally posted by LkPillsburyDude
                            The slide was marked Colt and it was wearing old colt grips. I know, I should have used my cell phone...
                            Would you be able to get pictures?

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