Shadow Systems

[static2126]

G&A says the CR920P may be the flattest-shooting production subcompact.

Peaked my interest in this one since my P365 is not, but the macro is available to me.

It does shoot pretty flat. A p365 with pmm comp shoots flatter (but I think neither are ok for cali)

[stormvet]

It is a gen 3, and I have the grip force adapter on it. I still get pretty nasty slide bite. 50 rounds is bad, 100-150, say for a match and I'm bloody. I know it's all a compromise, but the 19 (as much as I hate to say it) is a gun I shoot very well, so I live with it. Plus my wife has adopted the 19 as a carry gun. I feel it important to both have the same platform.

I have never heard of anybody getting slide bite with a grip force before, slide bite with a Glock is really fairly rare. But with the added beaver tail, unheard of till now. Crazy, but guess if you live long enough you see hear some pretty crazy things.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

I don't particularly care for them. The triggers feel heavy to me and paying hundreds over for a Glock clone doesn't make sense to me. I'd sooner have different triggers and slides on a Glock.

[IsaacMc]

I don't particularly care for them. The triggers feel heavy to me and paying hundreds over for a Glock clone doesn't make sense to me. I'd sooner have different triggers and slides on a Glock.

I have found it?s not the Glock trigger itself. It?s the connector. My standard is replace the connector and springs for 45 bucks and it?s a whole knee Glock with an amazing trigger feel

[sigstroker]

It is a gen 3, and I have the grip force adapter on it. I still get pretty nasty slide bite. 50 rounds is bad, 100-150, say for a match and I'm bloody. I know it's all a compromise, but the 19 (as much as I hate to say it) is a gun I shoot very well, so I live with it. Plus my wife has adopted the 19 as a carry gun. I feel it important to both have the same platform.

My Old Cup used to do that, so I wore a racquetball glove on my shooting hand. If you never played racquetball, the gloves are very thin goatskin. They only last a few months before they pretty much disintegrate from sweat and wear against the racquet in the palm area. However, the web area is still fine. I used to look funny walking to the line with a ratty glove with my palm showing through and the fingers cut off, but I wasn't bleeding at the end.

[sigstroker]

I was thinking about getting one, did some research and decided I?m just gonna get a Glock 47 instead.

Saw some reliability problems as well as others and a lot of they just aren?t as good as they use to be.

Don?t have any first hand knowledge, but I saw enough negative statements to make me stick with the proven original?now if Glock would start offering the 47 in OD I?d buy it tomorrow.

You can get a Dagger full sized in Sniper Green, for half the price.

[stormvet]

You can get a Dagger full sized in Sniper Green, for half the price.

If the dagger was Gen 5 and compatible with a 4.5 and 4.0 slide I?d think about it. But I personally feel the extra for a Gen 5 47 is money well spent.

I have G 17s already would not buy a Gen 5 17, but the 47 being MOS and compatible with a 4 inch makes it a worthwhile buy for me.

[naz]

Just my $0.02 but I’d rather have a gen 5 Glock with Glock performance trigger for reliability. Or maybe a canik rival

[static2126]

Just my $0.02 but I?d rather have a gen 5 Glock with Glock performance trigger for reliability. Or maybe a canik rival

Agreed though g performance trigger needs to be detail cleaned every 1 to 2k rounds pr reliability issues start occurring (sample of 3)

[static2126]

Just my $0.02 but I?d rather have a gen 5 Glock with Glock performance trigger for reliability. Or maybe a canik rival

New glock performance triggers also have a warning thst it doesn't meet NIJ law enforcement standards for use

[Rover]

Nothing wrong with Shadow Systems, but the frames are made by the same factory as Lone Wolf, and the LW is a better frame for a couple of reasons IMHO. The ergonomics being the main reason. The Shadow also has a buncg of crappy internal parts that really should be replaced with Glock parts, so unless you're completely opposed to modifying frames, you'd be better served just getting a Glock made by Glock and sending the frame to your favorite stippler. Most of my Gen 3 Glocks are all de-finger grooved, reduced, accelerator cuts added, undercut, stippled, and scalloped around the mag release. Zero issues with any of them, better ergonomics than Shadow and in the end, less expensive as well.

Also, as long as we're on the subject of off roaster Glock clones, SCT frames have 90% of the improvements of a Shadow, but they're $50, grab one and a real G19 and you can build yourself a nice little Glock clone for cheap, especially if you sell the OEM frame.

You can get a Dagger full sized in Sniper Green, for half the price.

Dagger is hot garbage. The tolerances are all over the map so they use split roll pins instead of solid pins like a Glock, I've worked on a few and some can be taken apart easily, some you gotta go full Thor on to get the stupid pins out. The trigger housing isn't Glcok spec, so most aftermarket triggers are completely unsafe on them. The OEM trigger is mush. On top of all that the recoil system allows the slide to bottom out on the frame, which can result in frame failures.

[static2126]

Nothing wrong with Shadow Systems, but the frames are made by the same factory as Lone Wolf, and the LW is a better frame for a couple of reasons IMHO. The ergonomics being the main reason. The Shadow also has a buncg of crappy internal parts that really should be replaced with Glock parts, so unless you're completely opposed to modifying frames, you'd be better served just getting a Glock made by Glock and sending the frame to your favorite stippler. Most of my Gen 3 Glocks are all de-finger grooved, reduced, accelerator cuts added, undercut, stippled, and scalloped around the mag release. Zero issues with any of them, better ergonomics than Shadow and in the end, less expensive as well.

Also, as long as we're on the subject of off roaster Glock clones, SCT frames have 90% of the improvements of a Shadow, but they're $50, grab one and a real G19 and you can build yourself a nice little Glock clone for cheap, especially if you sell the OEM frame.



Dagger is hot garbage. The tolerances are all over the map so they use split roll pins instead of solid pins like a Glock, I've worked on a few and some can be taken apart easily, some you gotta go full Thor on to get the stupid pins out. The trigger housing isn't Glcok spec, so most aftermarket triggers are completely unsafe on them. The OEM trigger is mush. On top of all that the recoil system allows the slide to bottom out on the frame, which can result in frame failures.

Agreed with all of this. SCT frames are great

100% true on dagger. Crap shoot what you get

[naz]

Agreed though g performance trigger needs to be detail cleaned every 1 to 2k rounds pr reliability issues start occurring (sample of 3)

Glock themselves do put in the manual to clean out the trigger group after each use

https://us.glock.com/en/-/media/Global/US/old/US-Site/surprise/GLK615Performance-Trigger-Information-PDF-42623.ashx

Very interesting since it?s similar to Timney and Timney advertises no issues in 10k rounds without cleaning

I guess Glock really is best it?s just kept bone stock

[CJJohn]

Welp, after all the comments, and reading I got an MR920 Elite. I'm just under a thousand rounds now. ZERO malfunctions, except for a bad magazine, that I knew was bad. I shot a match with and went home NOT bloody. That was nice. I've moved my RMR from my 19 to this. I'm very happy with it so far and I see no reason for that to change. I don't plan on making any changes to this gun. For all it offers I think it's a very fair deal. I like the sights, and even the stock trigger is good.

[static2126]

Welp, after all the comments, and reading I got an MR920 Elite. I'm just under a thousand rounds now. ZERO malfunctions, except for a bad magazine, that I knew was bad. I shot a match with and went home NOT bloody. That was nice. I've moved my RMR from my 19 to this. I'm very happy with it so far and I see no reason for that to change. I don't plan on making any changes to this gun. For all it offers I think it's a very fair deal. I like the sights, and even the stock trigger is good.

Nice! I do love their sights