Handguns with optics.

[ap3572001]

I MIGHT give pistol optics a try. Having a choice of : Glock MOS models , P320 or M&P 2.0, which one is best for an optic? I been carrying with irons for years and know very little about mounting optics.

[ABR]

I like the Sig 365/365x, both have Holosun k series on them.

For full size, I have the SA XDm Elite 10mm with the larger Holosun. All are optics ready.

[Rover]

None are better or worse, what do you carry/shoot well now? Just get that, but optic ready.

[tradecraft]

Can you rephrase what you're asking for?

[plumbum]

If you already have a Glock, go for a Glock (and so-on).

[IVC]

Shooting optics will require you to refine your presentation no matter what specific gun you choose. All guns on your list are great guns, you can't go wrong. But remember, if you change your grip angle such as between Glock and Sig, you'll be fishing for the dot initially. Once you get past the initial learning curve, the dot will be much faster.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

Whatever you're already familiar with.

Sig's optic offerings are relatively fragile compared to other offerings, which if it is something you are concerned about would require an additional plate to get something's besides their Romeo/Delta Point Pro footprint. I have a Legion for USPSA and since I'm not rolling around in a duty holster with it I'm not worried about the Romeo Pro on it.

Glock's standard MOS plates longevity wise suck and should be replaced as well.

Can't speak to M&P.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

Just put a Holosun 508T on a Glock 17 and a 507K on my Shield which is my CCW. Has to send the G17 slide out to get cut and bought an OEM Shield slide with an optics cut from the factory.

I had to change my presentation a little, but it's not as drastic of a change as many make it out to be. I have started using Scott Jedlinski's technique for grip and pointing in and it's been a very easy transition from irons.

Also love my red dot on my Beretta 1301.

I like Holosun because of the different reticle options. You may also want to check out the ACSS reticle. Makes it VERY easy to find the dot (or chevron on the case of the full-size version. The smaller K versions have a dot). I thought the ACSS/ACSS Vulcan reticle was just a marketing scam when I first heard about it, but after trying it it really does make finding the dot very easy and I could see it being beneficial if you're not in the optical shooting position, shooting at san award angle, or simply new to red dots and have trouble with your presentation and finding the dot.

[LindenBruce]

I have never tried pistol optics. Rifle yes and liked them. What are you going to use it for? Target or CCW or self defense? It makes a difference. The more complex you make something, the more likely it will fail. I was just at the range the other week and one guy's optics failed on him. He was not able to qualify with that pistol that day.

Granted, iron sights can fall of too. I have seen that. And tritium sights can fail also. Seen that to. But solid iron sight are far less likely to be a problem. It just depends on your intended usage. Then go from there and make the best decision you can for the what you plan to use the pistol for. B.

[ap3572001]

Can you rephrase what you're asking for?

I am planning direct mount only. No adapter plates . My thinking is to start with a pistol that is set up to accept a decent red dot sight via direct mount. My options are : Glocks MOS , M&P 2.0 series and SIG P320

[Vinnie Boombatz]

I have never tried pistol optics. Rifle yes and liked them. What are you going to use it for? Target or CCW or self defense? It makes a difference. The more complex you make something, the more likely it will fail. I was just at the range the other week and one guy's optics failed on him. He was not able to qualify with that pistol that day.

Granted, iron sights can fall of too. I have seen that. And tritium sights can fail also. Seen that to. But solid iron sight are far less likely to be a problem. It just depends on your intended usage. Then go from there and make the best decision you can for the what you plan to use the pistol for. B.

I've seen red dots fall off of pistols, I've seen fiber optic insets break and fall out and seen Glock front sights fall off, all during a class. Things happen, and I'd argue having a red dot AND back up iron sights means you at least have a back up system in place if either or fails.

[naz]

Whatever you're already familiar with.

Sig's optic offerings are relatively fragile compared to other offerings, which if it is something you are concerned about would require an additional plate to get something's besides their Romeo/Delta Point Pro footprint. I have a Legion for USPSA and since I'm not rolling around in a duty holster with it I'm not worried about the Romeo Pro on it.

I have an older model romeo1 on original 320 x5 slide that I put ~25k rounds through last year and it held zero fine. Only a few thousand through romeo3xl and seems ok as well

Regardless, I bring a backup gun since I?ve read the threads on the other forums and Reddit about how basically all optics break eventually.

As for OP’s question, my $0.02 would be to use whatever the slide is already milled for. If it’s Glock mos, holosun has a new red dot with footprint for direct mount to Glock mos slide. If it’s p320, guess it depends on how old it is. It’s probably romeo1 pro / dpp footprint so I’d suggest doing romeo1 pro so it cowitnesses the standard height sights

[L84CABO]

Does Glock MOS come with suppressor height sights? or do you have to pay to add those down the road? M&P's come with suppressor sights already installed. Not sure about Sig.

You absolutely want functional iron sights if this is going to be a defensive gun. If it's just going to be a range toy then you may be able to get by without them. But do note that suppressor sights can be pretty useful in the beginning to help guide your eye/find the dot. This isn't usually natural on pistols for most people. Most people take a good amount of time to learn how to pick the dot up on the draw. YMMV.

You can obviously add sights to any gun. But it's good to understand what you are and are not getting for your money so you draw a reasonable comparison between features and pricing.

Also, the M&P's, for example, come with mounting plates from the factory. If your ultimate goal is to direct mount your optic, you may want to start with a regular slide and have it cut yourself. Note that I don't actually know if it's possible to direct mount an optic onto an already cut, say, M&P slide...or the others. Maybe someone else here does. But you want to make sure you sort that out and understand what is and is not possible before you buy a specific gun.

[D.A.V.I.D.]

glock then m&p then sig but just the last one if you want to spice up your life with a gun that might shoot on its own.

[Capybara]

I have a Ruger Max 9. It is able to be fitted with an RDS straight out of the box. I have a Holosun 407X in Green and so far, it's ok. Not sure yet if I will carry it though, I haven't shot it enough to decide.