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  • tigerpan
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 2198

    2020 Python vs 1967 Python

    The new python is look nice but it will not worth price msrp price. The new python trigger is awful, it feel like my gp100 champion trigger.



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  • #2
    golfish
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2013
    • 10129

    I like the trigger on my 2020...
    It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
    Happiness is a warm gun.

    MLC, First 3

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    • #3
      dougd1015
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 210

      Current model has a more reliable design but workmanship simply doesn’t exist anymore in todays world.

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      • #4
        Wyatt Burp
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 1317

        The trigger pulls are mentioned often on shooting vids I’ve seen but I forgot if it”s the SA or DA that was complained about. They sure are gorgeous. I have a 1980 4” electroless nickel Python but always would have preferred a classic 6” blued like your older one there. My gun looks almost identical to your new one except the grips, of course.

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        • #5
          tigerpan
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 2198

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          • #6
            44fred
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 2399

            Which is it? Your GP100 or your Champion trigger or both? I have neither so I cannot compare.
            I’ve heard mixed reviews of the “new” Python. I would like my 1980 Python back but that ship sailed 20 years ago. I remember the action was pretty smooth and as you say, the single action trigger was darn good.
            I’m thinking the new model trigger will polish up easily to attain the same “old school” results.
            "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

            "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."

            "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms"
            -- Thomas Jefferson

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            • #7
              k1dude
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 16251

              They aren't comparable. Apples to oranges.

              The problem with comparing old Pythons to new Pythons, is the old ones have thousands of rounds through them already. And that's if they were kept stock. Most weren't. Most have had pro trigger work done to them. So between the trigger work and the tens of thousands of rounds through them, it's unfair to compare to a brand new Python out-of-the-box.

              There was an article a while back where to mitigate those differences, the authors found a brand new older Python that had never been shot or modified. IIRC, it had sat in a sock drawer for decades. They shot the 2 side-by-side and found the new Python had a much better trigger than the old but new Python.

              Of course, that's a sample size of one for both the old and the new Python. YMMV. But it was an interesting test nonetheless.
              "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

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              • #8
                bergmen
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 2494

                I had an opportunity to shoot a new Python today (4.25" barrel model). Fit and finish were exemplary. The grip fit my hand as though it was custom made for it.

                I shot reloads that the owner provided (he was right next to me on the shooting bench, very nice fellow).

                Quite accurate. But (to me), not as nice of an action, both DA and SA as my Kimber K6S DASA 3". My Kimber has a slicker action and is a lot lighter (42 oz. for the Python vs. 25.1 oz. for my Kimber).

                I was sort of jonesing for the new Python but IMO my Kimber is better for me.

                Dan

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                • #9
                  AFTII
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 1617

                  Originally posted by k1dude
                  They aren't comparable. Apples to oranges.

                  The problem with comparing old Pythons to new Pythons, is the old ones have thousands of rounds through them already. And that's if they were kept stock. Most weren't. Most have had pro trigger work done to them. So between the trigger work and the tens of thousands of rounds through them, it's unfair to compare to a brand new Python out-of-the-box.

                  There was an article a while back where to mitigate those differences, the authors found a brand new older Python that had never been shot or modified. IIRC, it had sat in a sock drawer for decades. They shot the 2 side-by-side and found the new Python had a much better trigger than the old but new Python.

                  Of course, that's a sample size of one for both the old and the new Python. YMMV. But it was an interesting test nonetheless.
                  I don't have a new Python, but I've tried the trigger on a few of them. OTOH, I do have a stock, low round, 1968 Python. It literally sat in a drawer for decades. The old Python's single action trigger is incomparable. It may be the best handgun trigger even conceived and built. However, the new model's DA trigger is smoother and lighter than the old one's DA trigger IMO.

                  There is one other metric from the "old days," namely, how well the trigger staged. The old Python was very easy to stage. Each pull, although heavier than the new Python, is nearly identical making the gun easy to stage. I haven't tried this with the new gun, so?

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                  • #10
                    SDDAVE56
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 2614

                    I almost pulled the trigger on a new Python. I dry fired a few in the stores. I was impressed. Fit and finish were awesome, trigger pull, single action, double action were very good. I would say comparable to my S&W Mod 19-4.

                    Im glad I hemmed and hawed on that though. I ended up buying a pre owned Python circa 1975. The trigger on that, by far the best of any gun I have ever shot, revolver that is. It was only $300 more than a new one.

                    Never say never though. I may some day, end up with a new Python.

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                    • #11
                      larkja
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 1362

                      Did a side-by-side review of the new Python, GP 100, and S&W 586/686 last year - https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1770898

                      My conclusion:
                      Out of the box, the Python is the best. But with a $20 investment and a little time, the S&W turns into a dream and, IMHO, is the best value out there. With some springs and polishing, the DA is smooth with no creep, and the SA breaks clean and crisp. I was the most accurate with the S&W. Of course YMMV.

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                      • #12
                        bergmen
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 2494

                        Originally posted by larkja
                        Did a side-by-side review of the new Python, GP 100, and S&W 586/686 last year - https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1770898

                        My conclusion:
                        Out of the box, the Python is the best. But with a $20 investment and a little time, the S&W turns into a dream and, IMHO, is the best value out there. With some springs and polishing, the DA is smooth with no creep, and the SA breaks clean and crisp. I was the most accurate with the S&W. Of course YMMV.
                        That was a GREAT post! Excellent information for all. I bought a spring kit (that you recommended) for my GP100 and it transformed it into a sweet shooter.

                        Thanks again!

                        Dan

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                        • #13
                          larkja
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 1362

                          Awesome! Glad it helped.


                          Originally posted by bergmen
                          That was a GREAT post! Excellent information for all. I bought a spring kit (that you recommended) for my GP100 and it transformed it into a sweet shooter.

                          Thanks again!

                          Dan

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                          • #14
                            CheapBloke
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 3121

                            Doubt CZ will attempt to fix any trigger issues.

                            One thing about stock/factory CZ handguns is certain, everyone gets some kind of CGW mod to it because either the reach is too long or they just suck.

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                            • #15
                              AFTII
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 1617

                              Originally posted by CheapBloke
                              Doubt CZ will attempt to fix any trigger issues.

                              One thing about stock/factory CZ handguns is certain, everyone gets some kind of CGW mod to it because either the reach is too long or they just suck.

                              Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
                              I have a CZ Shadow 2 Orange and a CZ Shadow 2 with a CZ Custom trigger job (the same trigger that is on the Accushadow, which is built by CZC). The Orange has a very light crisp single action trigger, but the DA trigger pull is long and heavy. The CZC SA trigger is heavier than the Orange, but the DA pull is shorter and lighter. Overall, I prefer the CZC trigger to that of the Orange although they are both outstanding triggers in their own right.

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