2020 Python vs 1967 Python

[tigerpan]

The new python is look nice but it will not worth price msrp price. The new python trigger is awful, it feel like my gp100 champion trigger.



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[golfish]

I like the trigger on my 2020...

[dougd1015]

Current model has a more reliable design but workmanship simply doesn’t exist anymore in todays world.

[Wyatt Burp]

The trigger pulls are mentioned often on shooting vids I’ve seen but I forgot if it”s the SA or DA that was complained about. They sure are gorgeous. I have a 1980 4” electroless nickel Python but always would have preferred a classic 6” blued like your older one there. My gun looks almost identical to your new one except the grips, of course.

[tigerpan]

[44fred]

Which is it? Your GP100 or your Champion trigger or both? I have neither so I cannot compare.
I’ve heard mixed reviews of the “new” Python. I would like my 1980 Python back but that ship sailed 20 years ago. I remember the action was pretty smooth and as you say, the single action trigger was darn good.
I’m thinking the new model trigger will polish up easily to attain the same “old school” results.

[k1dude]

They aren't comparable. Apples to oranges.

The problem with comparing old Pythons to new Pythons, is the old ones have thousands of rounds through them already. And that's if they were kept stock. Most weren't. Most have had pro trigger work done to them. So between the trigger work and the tens of thousands of rounds through them, it's unfair to compare to a brand new Python out-of-the-box.

There was an article a while back where to mitigate those differences, the authors found a brand new older Python that had never been shot or modified. IIRC, it had sat in a sock drawer for decades. They shot the 2 side-by-side and found the new Python had a much better trigger than the old but new Python.

Of course, that's a sample size of one for both the old and the new Python. YMMV. But it was an interesting test nonetheless.

[bergmen]

I had an opportunity to shoot a new Python today (4.25" barrel model). Fit and finish were exemplary. The grip fit my hand as though it was custom made for it.

I shot reloads that the owner provided (he was right next to me on the shooting bench, very nice fellow).

Quite accurate. But (to me), not as nice of an action, both DA and SA as my Kimber K6S DASA 3". My Kimber has a slicker action and is a lot lighter (42 oz. for the Python vs. 25.1 oz. for my Kimber).

I was sort of jonesing for the new Python but IMO my Kimber is better for me.

Dan

[AFTII]

They aren't comparable. Apples to oranges.

The problem with comparing old Pythons to new Pythons, is the old ones have thousands of rounds through them already. And that's if they were kept stock. Most weren't. Most have had pro trigger work done to them. So between the trigger work and the tens of thousands of rounds through them, it's unfair to compare to a brand new Python out-of-the-box.

There was an article a while back where to mitigate those differences, the authors found a brand new older Python that had never been shot or modified. IIRC, it had sat in a sock drawer for decades. They shot the 2 side-by-side and found the new Python had a much better trigger than the old but new Python.

Of course, that's a sample size of one for both the old and the new Python. YMMV. But it was an interesting test nonetheless.

I don't have a new Python, but I've tried the trigger on a few of them. OTOH, I do have a stock, low round, 1968 Python. It literally sat in a drawer for decades. The old Python's single action trigger is incomparable. It may be the best handgun trigger even conceived and built. However, the new model's DA trigger is smoother and lighter than the old one's DA trigger IMO.

There is one other metric from the "old days," namely, how well the trigger staged. The old Python was very easy to stage. Each pull, although heavier than the new Python, is nearly identical making the gun easy to stage. I haven't tried this with the new gun, so?

[SDDAVE56]

I almost pulled the trigger on a new Python. I dry fired a few in the stores. I was impressed. Fit and finish were awesome, trigger pull, single action, double action were very good. I would say comparable to my S&W Mod 19-4.

Im glad I hemmed and hawed on that though. I ended up buying a pre owned Python circa 1975. The trigger on that, by far the best of any gun I have ever shot, revolver that is. It was only $300 more than a new one.

Never say never though. I may some day, end up with a new Python.

[larkja]

Did a side-by-side review of the new Python, GP 100, and S&W 586/686 last year - https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1770898

My conclusion:
Out of the box, the Python is the best. But with a $20 investment and a little time, the S&W turns into a dream and, IMHO, is the best value out there. With some springs and polishing, the DA is smooth with no creep, and the SA breaks clean and crisp. I was the most accurate with the S&W. Of course YMMV.

[bergmen]

Did a side-by-side review of the new Python, GP 100, and S&W 586/686 last year - https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1770898

My conclusion:
Out of the box, the Python is the best. But with a $20 investment and a little time, the S&W turns into a dream and, IMHO, is the best value out there. With some springs and polishing, the DA is smooth with no creep, and the SA breaks clean and crisp. I was the most accurate with the S&W. Of course YMMV.

That was a GREAT post! Excellent information for all. I bought a spring kit (that you recommended) for my GP100 and it transformed it into a sweet shooter.

Thanks again!

Dan

[larkja]

Awesome! Glad it helped.

That was a GREAT post! Excellent information for all. I bought a spring kit (that you recommended) for my GP100 and it transformed it into a sweet shooter.

Thanks again!

Dan

[CheapBloke]

Doubt CZ will attempt to fix any trigger issues.

One thing about stock/factory CZ handguns is certain, everyone gets some kind of CGW mod to it because either the reach is too long or they just suck.

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[AFTII]

Doubt CZ will attempt to fix any trigger issues.

One thing about stock/factory CZ handguns is certain, everyone gets some kind of CGW mod to it because either the reach is too long or they just suck.

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I have a CZ Shadow 2 Orange and a CZ Shadow 2 with a CZ Custom trigger job (the same trigger that is on the Accushadow, which is built by CZC). The Orange has a very light crisp single action trigger, but the DA trigger pull is long and heavy. The CZC SA trigger is heavier than the Orange, but the DA pull is shorter and lighter. Overall, I prefer the CZC trigger to that of the Orange although they are both outstanding triggers in their own right.