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  • #31
    9mmContagion
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 3242

    Originally posted by Dr. Peter Venkman
    407C new is sub $200. For over $300 you can have a 509T. RMR isn't giving you anything more for the cost.
    Besides being an American Made company.
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    • #32
      Dr. Peter Venkman
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 4899

      Originally posted by 9mmContagion
      Besides being an American Made company.
      I'll give you that.
      sigpic
      "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
      Originally posted by berto
      You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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      • #33
        9mmContagion
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 3242

        Originally posted by Dr. Peter Venkman
        I'll give you that.
        Cheers my friend. At least we can agree on something! Merry Christmas, brother!
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        • #34
          DNA
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 1517



          Save your friend the headache and get one of these $99 slides instead of the $50 adapter that sits on the sight groove.
          Originally posted by bigmike82
          That doesn't matter.

          If you believe in Liberty, you should believe it for everyone, not simply those whom you agree with.

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          • #35
            naz
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2020
            • 3108

            Originally posted by Dr. Peter Venkman
            407C new is sub $200. For over $300 you can have a 509T. RMR isn't giving you anything more for the cost.
            You can use the rmr to rack the slide off tables and other hard objects and throw the gun on the ground optic first and expect it to still run.

            The internet would like us to think 509 is that tough too but if someone else was paying I would ask for rmr or acro p2 instead of a holosun for a defensive handgun

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            • #36
              Dr. Peter Venkman
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 4899

              Originally posted by 9mmContagion
              Cheers my friend. At least we can agree on something! Merry Christmas, brother!
              Merry Christmas!


              Originally posted by naz
              You can use the rmr to rack the slide off tables and other hard objects and throw the gun on the ground optic first and expect it to still run.

              The internet would like us to think 509 is that tough too but if someone else was paying I would ask for rmr or acro p2 instead of a holosun for a defensive handgun
              I highly respect the opinions of people like Aaron Cowan, Scott Jedilinski, or Steve Fisher who say Holosun is good to go. A 507, and by extension 407, can do everything an RMR can which by now are old hat.


              Last edited by Dr. Peter Venkman; 12-20-2022, 9:05 AM.
              sigpic
              "America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
              Originally posted by berto
              You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.

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              • #37
                uLs1a
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 980

                What MOA dot size does he prefer? Everybody shoots differently and everybody as their own opinion on MOA dot sizes. The Holosun 407C has a 2MOA dot and the Holosun 507C allows you to switch between a 2 MOA dot, a 65 MOA circle and a 2MOA dot with the 65MOA circle. The 2 MOA is a great size if he would like more precision shooting. The Vortex Venom comes in 3MOA and 6MOA. The Leupold DDP comes in a 2.5MOA and a 6MOA, but its a fairly chuncky red dot.

                On my FNX45 Tactical I run a Vortex Venom 3MOA and on my Springfield XDM Elite OSP, I run the Holosun 407K which is a 6MOA dot. But on my AR15, I run the Aimpoint PRO which is a 2MOA.

                If he has an opportunity to handle a few optics and look at the moa dot size, that what I would recommend. But honestly, he cannot go wrong with Holosun, Leupold, Vortex, but he will need to figure out his budget and his preferred MOA size.

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                • #39
                  Vmastros
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 20

                  Wow!!! You folks have given me a lot of things to think about. Thanks.

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                  • #40
                    R3LAPSE
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2021
                    • 8

                    You might want to add in the 507C ACSS Vulcan to the list of things to consider. If he's a first time red dot user, the vulcan reticle might be of great help. See video here: https://youtu.be/asGV9rRNDNI

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                    • #41
                      Palmaris
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 6554

                      Originally posted by static2126
                      Holosun 407c or 507c
                      Real man speaking!!! I second this! I would even ask him to get it for you-you won't be disappointed.
                      sd_shooter:
                      CGN couch patriots: "We the people!"

                      In real life: No one

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                      • #42
                        rodralig
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4262

                        Originally posted by Vmastros
                        Wow!!! You folks have given me a lot of things to think about. Thanks.
                        Swampfox is having a sale now. 3MOA dot with an RMR footprint, as well, an enclosure "shield" for just $195

                        Precision-engineered tactical rifle scopes, red dot sights, and magnifiers.





                        SuperSetCA did a review of these dots:





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                        WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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