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"America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
Originally posted by bertoYou're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.Comment
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You can use the rmr to rack the slide off tables and other hard objects and throw the gun on the ground optic first and expect it to still run.
The internet would like us to think 509 is that tough too but if someone else was paying I would ask for rmr or acro p2 instead of a holosun for a defensive handgunComment
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Merry Christmas!
I highly respect the opinions of people like Aaron Cowan, Scott Jedilinski, or Steve Fisher who say Holosun is good to go. A 507, and by extension 407, can do everything an RMR can which by now are old hat.You can use the rmr to rack the slide off tables and other hard objects and throw the gun on the ground optic first and expect it to still run.
The internet would like us to think 509 is that tough too but if someone else was paying I would ask for rmr or acro p2 instead of a holosun for a defensive handgun
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"America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
Originally posted by bertoYou're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.Comment
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What MOA dot size does he prefer? Everybody shoots differently and everybody as their own opinion on MOA dot sizes. The Holosun 407C has a 2MOA dot and the Holosun 507C allows you to switch between a 2 MOA dot, a 65 MOA circle and a 2MOA dot with the 65MOA circle. The 2 MOA is a great size if he would like more precision shooting. The Vortex Venom comes in 3MOA and 6MOA. The Leupold DDP comes in a 2.5MOA and a 6MOA, but its a fairly chuncky red dot.
On my FNX45 Tactical I run a Vortex Venom 3MOA and on my Springfield XDM Elite OSP, I run the Holosun 407K which is a 6MOA dot. But on my AR15, I run the Aimpoint PRO which is a 2MOA.
If he has an opportunity to handle a few optics and look at the moa dot size, that what I would recommend. But honestly, he cannot go wrong with Holosun, Leupold, Vortex, but he will need to figure out his budget and his preferred MOA size.Comment
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You might want to add in the 507C ACSS Vulcan to the list of things to consider. If he's a first time red dot user, the vulcan reticle might be of great help. See video here: https://youtu.be/asGV9rRNDNIComment
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