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  • nrakid88
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    • Jul 2008
    • 3285

    Glock 20 for first pistol?

    I have been shooting mostly a 1911 for a couple years, probably about 600 rounds of 45acp experience, and I am turning 21 soon. I plan on getting a glock 20 in 10mm, and reloading for it. 180 grains, 1280 fps, 661foot ppounds energy, 20 cents a round. I just wanted to know what you guys think. I like glock frames, they fit my hands better. And I dont think the recoil will be too much to get used to. Plus I can reload 10mm for cheaper that 9mm costs at the store. Anyone think this is a good or bad idea? Im not completely against getting a G17, but prefer a cartridge that will do its job. Plus I am thinking if I find the 10mm to be a little to much power, I can always down load it to FBI specs.
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    THT
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    • Mar 2009
    • 5140

    Have you shot one? If not, would suggest you shoot one before plunking down the cash for one. What are you planning on doing with it?
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    • #3
      nrakid88
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      • Jul 2008
      • 3285

      I am planning on using it for target practice, carrying when I go camping or hiking, and HD.
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      5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
      Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
      You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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      • #4
        nrakid88
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 3285

        Ive shot a glock 21 too so I am thinking the two should be comparable. I dont know anyone with a glock 20, and I dont think any ranges around here rent them out.
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        5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
        Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
        You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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        • #5
          Greg-Dawg
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          • Oct 2006
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          Go for it.

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          • #6
            sierrawoodsman
            Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 126

            There .40 S&W conversion barrels for it so you could shoot cheaper for target pratice. I would say go for it.
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            • #7
              locosway
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2009
              • 11346

              http://lpfr.com/LPFR/Home.html has a Glock 20 for rent.

              The 10mm is a superior round and you CAN get a .40 S&W barrel for the Glock 20 to switch between the two in a matter of seconds.

              Also if you're reloading you can use most of the same equipment for the 10mm and the .40.
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              • #8
                SJgunguy24
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2008
                • 14849

                I'd shoot one first. If you go with a 20 you can build a 45acp upper and just slap it on.
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                • #9
                  Z ME FLY
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                  • Mar 2008
                  • 6590

                  First gun? Reloading? You can get a G20 if you want but you mention how cheap it was to reload. It would be even cheaper reloading a 9mm! I would suggest you go shoot a 10mm and see if you can handle the recoil. The recoil isn't that bad but you have to remember about follow up shots.
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                  • #10
                    nrakid88
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                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3285

                    Originally posted by Z ME FLY
                    First gun? Reloading? You can get a G20 if you want but you mention how cheap it was to reload. It would be even cheaper reloading a 9mm! I would suggest you go shoot a 10mm and see if you can handle the recoil. The recoil isn't that bad but you have to remember about follow up shots.
                    I would only be saving 6 cents a round for 9mm. I would rather pay six more cents a round for something that will put some hurt on what it hits. I will think about renting one first.
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                    5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
                    Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                    You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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                    • #11
                      locosway
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 11346

                      I pick up my Glock 20 on Tuesday. Recoil can be changed by adding weight to the gun and running some lighter loads if you like.

                      If you're doing competition shooting then perhaps a 10mm isn't the round for you. Personally I like the round very much, and I'm going to try some amateur competitions with it. I also have the choice of going to a .40 S&W if I so choose just be switching the barrel.

                      If you've never shot a 10mm I'd suggest it. It's like a magnum for a semi-auto. That range I linked before said they have one for rent and the prices are reasonable.
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                      • #12
                        D.R.E.
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 891

                        I really like my G20, esp since you can convert to different calibers so easily. (E.g., I have barrels for 9x23, 9x25, 40, 357sig and a barsto for 10mm).

                        However, without a grip reduction many people find it awkward to hold. Also, 10mm is more expensive to load than it may seem --- if you shoot inside it's really hard to not lose a non trivial fraction of your cases with hot loads (they bounce everywhere).

                        I'd personally recommend a G35. It's very accurate. And once-fired 40 brass is dirt cheap (around $30 / 1000 last time I bought on GB) so it's no big deal if you lose 30% or more per range visit. Plus buying the initial 1,000 or 2,000 cases is not a small expense when you just got hit w/ the cost of the reloading equip.

                        You can swap in a barrel and hot load 357 sig to very close to the recoil of a 10mm if you want to work on your follow up shots under heavy recoil. Also you can probably hot load your 40 cases using IPSEC load data to close to what federal puts their 10mm at.

                        On the other hand the G20 will take the 50 GI conversion so that's pretty cool

                        I'd recommend the dawson precision fiberoptic if you wind up going w/ a glock. Very nice sight picture.
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                        • #13
                          nrakid88
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3285

                          YEah, thats the only part of the 10mm I dont like, brass is going to be costly. But I do my shooting outdoors, so it shouldn't be too hard to find it all. I am pissed I missed midways once fired 10mm brass
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                          5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
                          Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                          You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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                          • #14
                            locosway
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 11346

                            When are you planning on buying? I get mine on Tuesday and I'm in SCV/Valencia often because my aunt lives there. There's a range right there too.
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                            • #15
                              D.R.E.
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 891

                              Originally posted by nrakid88
                              YEah, thats the only part of the 10mm I dont like, brass is going to be costly. But I do my shooting outdoors, so it shouldn't be too hard to find it all. I am pissed I missed midways once fired 10mm brass
                              If you buy direct from starline its often cheaper. I've seen a bunch of auctions on gunbroker where once fired went for more than new.

                              Montana gold had good prices on 40 cal bullets.

                              I never shot 10mm out of my factory barrel. If it leaves a glock smile you might want to pick up a lone wolf barrel which will fully support the case. (Barsto barrels are great for 10mm, too, but more expensive.)
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