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  • Darto
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2012
    • 6623

    Alpha and Omega.

    Revelation. The Bible ends with a bang:
    "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

    I thought of that when reading an online magazine article saying that the 1911 was the first reliable 'automatic' pistol ever made. Meanwhile it is still the case that a few elite special forces even now carry it.

    In the 20 years around the turn of that century we suddenly had airplanes, cars, radios, motion pictures, phonograph discs. Maybe no example from those can still be considered one of the best we have today.

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    Rcjackrabbit
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 971

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    • #3
      elSquid
      In Memoriam
      • Aug 2007
      • 11844

      Originally posted by Darto
      Meanwhile it is still the case that a few elite special forces even now carry it.

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        BigPimping
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2010
        • 21459

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        • #5
          morrcarr67
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 15034

          My nephew just completed 0326 training. He qualified as an Expert with the M45A1 CQB.

          0326 puts him in a very elite group of Marines and they are issued nothing but the best. Being the best requires the best tools.

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          • #6
            SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23525

            Originally posted by morrcarr67
            My nephew just completed 0326 training. He qualified as an Expert with the M45A1 CQB.

            0326 puts him in a very elite group of Marines and they are issued nothing but the best. Being the best requires the best tools.

            Sent from my BE2026 using Tapatalk
            Yes, yes it does...


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            • #7
              Darto
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2012
              • 6623

              Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
              I don’t think you can compare the Lord and Savior of the world to a handgun.

              Bit of a stretch.
              They're both the first. And both the last (greatest). Imagine flying a 1911 airplane or using a 1911 electric toaster.They didn't last like the Colt pistols.

              I prefer a Glock for defense purposes, but I'm not doing important duties requiring highly trained experts. "Glock, so easy even a Neanderthal can do it".

              My experience and interest is mainly relics from earlier times. My hero was Davy Crockett, not Rambo.

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Originally posted by Darto
                Revelation. The Bible ends with a bang:
                "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."


                As translated from the original ancient manuscripts by Fr. Frog in 2002.

                The Gospel According to JMB

                1 In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."

                2 "And shouldst thou muck with it, and hang all manner of foul implements upon it, and profane its internal parts, thou shalt surely have malfunctions, and in the midst of battle thou shalt surely come to harm."

                3 And as the ages passed men in their ignorance and arrogance didst forget the word of the Lord and began to profane the 1911. The tribe of the gamesman did place recoil spring guides and extended slide releases upon the 1911 and their metal smiths didst tighten the tolerances and alter parts to their liking, their clearness of mind being clouded by lust.

                4 Their artisans did hang all manner of foul implements upon the 1911 and did so alter it that it became impractical to purchase. For lo, the artisans didst charge a great tax upon the purchasers of the 1911 so that the lowly field worker could not afford one. And the profaning of the internal parts didst render it unworkable when the dust of the land fell upon it, and these profaners didst try and fit more rounds of ammunition into the magazines than the holy number of seven, appointed for the .45.

                5 And lo, they didst install adjustable sights, which are an abomination unto the Lord. For they doth break and lose their zero when thou dost need true aim. And those who have done so will be slain in great numbers by their enemies in the great battle. *

                6 And it came to pass that the Lord didst see the abomination wrought by man and didst cause, as he had warned, fearful malfunctions to come upon the abominations and upon the artisans who thought they could do no wrong.

                7 Seeing the malfunctions and the confusion of men, the lord of the underworld did see an opportunity to further ensnare man and didst bring forth pistols made of plastic, whose form was such that they looked and felt like a brick, yet the eyes of man being clouded, they were consumed by the plastic pistol and did buy vast quantities of them.

                8 And being a deceitful spirit, the lord of the underworld did make these plastic pistols unamenable to the artisans of earth and they were unable to muck much with the design, and lo these pistols did appear to function.

                9 And the evil one also brought forth pistols in which the trigger didst both cock and fire them and which require a "dingus" to make them appear safe.

                10 But man being stupid did not understand these new pistols and didst proceed to shoot themselves with the plastic pistol and with the trigger cocking pistols for lo their manual of arms required great intelligence which man had long since forsaken. Yet man continue to gloat over these new pistols blaming evil forces for the negligent discharges which they themselves had committed.

                11 And when man had been totally ensnared with the plastic pistol, the lord of the underworld didst cause a plague of the terrible Ka-Boom to descend upon man and the plastic pistols delivered their retribution upon men. And there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth in the land.

                12 Then seeing that the eyes of man were slowly being opened and that man was truly sorrowful for his sinful misdeeds, the Lord did send his messengers in the form of artisans who did hear and obey the teachings of the prophet and who didst restore the profaned 1911s to their proper configuration, and lo, to the amazement of men they didst begin to work as the prophet had intended.

                13 And the men of the land didst drive out the charlatans and profaners from the land, and there was joy and peace in the land, except for the evil sprits which tried occasionally to prey on the men and women of the land and who were sent to the place of eternal damnation by the followers of John.

                * Several old manuscripts add the following text. "And they [also rendered as "these men"] didst chamber it for cartridges who's calibers startith with numbers less than the Holy Number 4. And lo the Lord did cause great grief amongst these men when their enemies who were struck in battle with these lesser numbers didst not fall but did continue to cause great harm."
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                • #9
                  Quiet
                  retired Goon
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 30242

                  Originally posted by Darto
                  I thought of that when reading an online magazine article saying that the 1911 was the first reliable 'automatic' pistol ever made. Meanwhile it is still the case that a few elite special forces even now carry it.


                  "first reliable 'automatic' pistol ever made"... I guess they forgot about the Mauser C96, FN 1900, and Luger 1900.


                  North Korean special operations still use a domestic made silenced FN 1900 clone.
                  ^North Korean Type 64.
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                  "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                  • #10
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 12599

                    Originally posted by Quiet


                    "first reliable 'automatic' pistol ever made"... I guess they forgot about the Mauser C96, FN 1900, and Luger 1900.


                    North Korean special operations still use a domestic made silenced FN 1900 clone.
                    ^North Korean Type 64.
                    And the Colt 1905, from Colt itself - preceding the 1911.

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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #11
                      TrailerparkTrash
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4249

                      While I love Colt 1911’s, it’s the last thing I’d want at my side in combat if given a choice, due to low round count. I’m not into .45 ACP much anymore for “duty use,” especially because they hold less rounds than 17-19+ rounds. This is a good examole why it’s better to carry more rounds in a handgun for LE/Military use….

                      Last edited by TrailerparkTrash; 10-02-2022, 10:03 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Sailormilan2
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 3474

                        Created by Saint John the Magnificent? Saint John Moses Browning.
                        Last edited by Sailormilan2; 10-03-2022, 6:56 PM.

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