ISO: Compact or Medium sized pistol for CCW recommendations

[elSquid]

One option is a striker control device. Not sure of the availability for gen3s these days, so may be gen 5 only going forward.

https://langdontactical.com/ltt-striker-control-device-scd/

[Capybara]

So apparently no love for the CZ 75 Compact?

[Capybara]

To be fair, I very rarely carry it and when I do, it's usually outdoors where I am taking it shooting in the boonies. For EDC, it's just too bulky for my taste.

Also, the conversation is becoming fixated on just the safety aspect of the Glock. There are plenty of other things I dislike about Glocks, some of which are relevant to EDC and some which are not. They're ugly. They're generic. They have terrible triggers, there are issues with loading lead rounds for practice sessions, I could go on and on. But my intent wasn't to bag on Glocks or debate the relative merits of not having or having a manual safety. Don't get me wrong, I have a G17, I like shooting it okay. It's not my favorite, it's the Toyota Camry of handguns, it's an appliance.

For this next pistol, I want something different. Was just hoping some of the more avid handgun crowd here would make some of their personal recommendations based upon my criteria, not convince me that my thinking is flawed for carrying what I prefer. There are a lot of pistols that meet this criteria, let's discuss those and whether or not I use the manual safety will be irrelevant. The 32 Oz weight of the CZ 75 Compact is intriguing. One complain of subcompacts is muzzle flip and staying on target in strings. A medium sized 32 oz all metal pistol mitigates a lot of that. That's interesting. I don't want to carry it every day, everywhere, but that's why I would have five pistols on my CCW, different tools for different situations and choice is good.

[lurchnp81]

Springfield EMP? Not striker fired, but 9mm and has a manual safety

[elSquid]

So apparently no love for the CZ 75 Compact?

[9Cal_OC]

So apparently no love for the CZ 75 Compact?

[Capybara]

Tell me how you think that a manual safety makes a gun safer.
You still have to use a digit to deactivate it.

Are you someone who is so unsafe that you can not remember to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot?
If so, you probably should not be carrying a firearm at all.

A safety outside the triggerguard is not going to help once you have turned off the safety while the 3 inside the triggerguard on a glock are still active until you reach the end of the trigger pull.
A manual safety only gets in the way when you are under the most duress and absolutely need to fire and least likely to be thinking straight.



Same deal for handguns.
And relying on a manual safety to make you think the gun is actually safe is a very poor plan.
Taking the gun out of battery is the only true way to make it safe for crossing fences/gates.

All I can say is you're wanting to have a conversation that I don't need to have and you're making accusations about my gun safety skills when you don't know me and have never shot with me. You just have to accept that some people want to CCW a pistol with a manual safety. You don't and that's fine and I do and that's fine. I'm not sure why you think it's your job to "edumacate" me about gun safety in a thread where I asked about pistol recommendations?

I'm not buying another Glock. You're an enlightened gun owner and smith, how about laying on some recommendations about guns you know about that I asked about rather than trying to convince me I'm an unsafe shooter or instructor?

[Capybara]

Springfield EMP? Not striker fired, but 9mm and has a manual safety

I don't trust the cyclic reliability of smaller 1911 style pistols, especially in 9mm. I don't believe that 9mm 1911s are generally as reliable as .45 ACP 1911s and I know firsthand from shooting Commanders and various Kimbers that at least the few smaller 1911 style pistols I've had a chance to shoot just weren't as reliable as my F/S 1911.

[Capybara]

I can't afford a Wilson but good to hear you like the CZ!

[Capybara]

Yeah, 32 Oz is a beast. I was considering it mainly because I just dig CZs and I used to own the 75 SP-01 and liked it so I thought a smaller version of it would be cool.

I'm a C&R guy though and have a lot of all steel little heavy beasts but I don't CCW them these days. When I first had my CCW, I carried my CZ82 for a few years and a Makarov, but heavy, weak round and the plastic pistols seemed like a better carry choice, which I think generally, they are.

[elSquid]

I can't afford a Wilson but good to hear you like the CZ!

Just realized that I missed something...

The RIA MAPP MS is also on roster: poly framed Tanfo CZ75 clone assembled in the Philippines. Another choice for the C&L aficionado.

https://www.armscor.com/mapp

The MAPP is a bit thicker than the compact though, noticeably in the slide. Reminds me a lot of the CZ P07 in that regard.

-- Michael

[Capybara]

Just realized that I missed something...

The RIA MAPP MS is also on roster: poly framed Tanfo CZ75 clone assembled in the Philippines. Another choice for the C&L aficionado.

https://www.armscor.com/mapp

The MAPP is a bit thicker than the compact though, noticeably in the slide. Reminds me a lot of the CZ P07 in that regard.

-- Michael

Thanks Michael:

That's exactly what I was hoping for in my post, I've never even heard of or seen this pistol and it's interesting looking so I'm going to do a dive and learn about it. For that, you get a meme sticker.

[Bookhead]

The CZ compact gets love from these quarters. True, it is an older pistol, and it is heavier than many choices; however, it remains a great pistol.

I would encourage you to seriously consider one.

A well chosen holster & belt can help mitigate the weight.

You already know & like the CZ family.

One of the things that makes the sp01 such a smooth shooter is the weight. The 75 compact also does well in soaking up recoil.

If you have the inkling, Cajunizing the gun makes a great pistol even better.


Best wishes on your search

[TomReloaded]

I love cz and would absolutely not want to carry that tank of a pistol. They're nice shooters, but that doesn't do you any favors for carrying it in your pants all day.

I don't mind carrying my shield plus. It's a good gun.

[SIP2000GLO]

CZ P01 is another excellent choice for CCW .