Importance of Different Standard Capacity Magazines

[the_tunaman]

As Harry pointed out, it is often multiple ‘yutes’ to deal with, so I would hope to have as many rounds as it would take to immobilize them.

Depending on the platform, that might ‘only’ be two extra rounds, or 10, or 20… I can’t think of a single scenario where more would not be merrier.

[bohoki]

freedom is all that matters

[bruss01]

Here in California most people can't have magazines that hold over 10 rounds, but in all other states that can, how important is having an extra couple rounds? I'm wondering because the new .30 carry caliber is making headlines because it's able to offer about 2 extra rounds in the same sized gun. Similarly, police departments keep mentioning the added magazine capability in a same sized gun for the Glock 17 vs the Glock 22 as a reason for switching to 9mm; I get the less recoil part, but they always mention getting more magazine capacity in a same sized gun and I'm starting to wonder if 2 rounds can really make that much if a difference? Also, size and recoil aside, a Glock 21 holds 13 rounds and a Glock 19 holds 15, only 2 more. However, the G19 holding more rounds is always mentioned, but it only holds 2 more rounds. Is 2 more rounds really that important?

Lots of good comments here.

How important is a spare tire in a car? It's utterly inconsequential... until the day you have a flat.

How important are those extra 2 rounds? Again, they are inconsequential... until the time you're out of ammo and the guy(s) shooting at you... aren't.

Now if you are looking for statistics, the average gunfight lasts 2-3 rounds. That's a figure you see come up a lot. Which sounds like a relief... until you consider that not every self-defense use is "average" in which case if those people were limited to 3 rounds... they'd have been dead or seriously injured.

Are shoulder belts really needed in cars? Are air bags? A simple lap belt would prevent the majority of injuries in vehicular accidents. The question is not "are they needed" so much as "do they offer benefit?" I believe the same argument can be made for an additional 2 rounds of ammunition.

[ar15robert]

[SigSauerP226]

The more, the merrier.
Better to have it and not need it.
A bird in the bush is worth two extra rounds in the mag. Something like that.
I like the above quote, "I have to much ammo for this gun fight!" - No one ever.
Seems like the military tends to align with volume of fire is superior.
Feel like I hear people say, "He who shoots most, wins."

Honestly, I think these always come back to shot placement...

[newbie1234]

Thread title fail… should read “Importance of Standard Capacity Magazines”.

Everybody used the magazine that came with the pistol by design from manufactories, but those "Stupid SOB" CA politicians who made the 10 rounds mag laws and "stupid SOB" voted for that law.

Hey, don't censor me on the "stupid SOB" phrase, I used the same phrase that the DISRESPECT President of the USA spoken.

To make it short: We are using the wrong type of magazine.

[Mute]

I wouldn't turn down extra rounds in a magazine but I also won't reject a gun over not having those extra rounds either.

[Brother_Hesekiel]

I like the smallest gun possible in at least .380 or 38. Carried a LCP w/plus one kit for years and a J frame for 3 decades and counting. I live in a crime ridden big city. For that one a trillion chance I'd ever need more rounds, yeah, more rounds and a bigger and heavier gun would be nice. Why not just carry a shotgun under your coat while wearing a back brace? For a home invasion type scenario, the odds are in your favor, as you're on home turf and have knowledge of your surroundings and should have more and better home defense weapons available.

I'm against any kind of capacity limitations, but concealed carrying means carrying the weapon so others don't know you have one. This applies in all states. That means going small, and small guns usually have low capacity magazines. For CCW purposes the "extra" 2 rounds makes no sense, unless you're an idiot and go out looking for trouble, or you're just an unaware fool and go into places people with common sense tend to avoid. Any other scenario where you'd need extra magazines and rounds is pure fantasy, as the odds are extremely low you are going to get into an extended shoot out with multiple attackers. Super rare incidents in a country of 339 million people.

With that said, I'm also unvaccinated for many of the same reasons, the odds.

I'm hereby submitting this post as contender for "Post of the Year."

[IVC]

For CCW purposes the "extra" 2 rounds makes no sense, unless you're an idiot and go out looking for trouble, or you're just an unaware fool and go into places people with common sense tend to avoid.

What is commonly knows as "five S-es" - Don't go to Stupid places at Stupid times with Stupid people doing Stupid S#!t.

[therealnickb]

What is commonly knows as "five S-es" - Don't go to Stupid places at Stupid times with Stupid people doing Stupid S#!t.

[The Gleam]

What irks me the most is that boxes of ammo come in 20rds, 50rds, 500rds, and 1,000rds.

I don't want to be forced to think here, or do math with odd numbers like 7 or 11 to constantly have to bog down my thoughts with wondering how much I have left, carrying numbers, losing track, etc.

Trying to keep track of that may even cause anxiety and panic attacks, especially considering those emotionally suffering the most from ammo shortages these past 2 years - we really need to consider their mental health predicament.

Thus, to make this simple and ease the burden of stress on those poor souls, all magazines should come in at least 20rd and 50rd capacities, whereby anything above that is belt-feed.

I think that is a happy medium that any politician who truly cares about the health and welfare of our fellow California citizens, would surely adopt and be a proponent of the plan.

And it's for the children; they don't like math either.

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[benjamin101677]

If someone is ever unlucky enough to get into a shooting they are going be surprised how quickly ammo goes. With multiple subjects 10 rounds vs 18 rounds could mean your life

[Dan_Eastvale]

What irks me the most is that boxes of ammo come in 20rds, 50rds, 500rds, and 1,000rds.

I don't want to be forced to think here, or do math with odd numbers like 7 or 11 to constantly have to bog down my thoughts with wondering how much I have left, carrying numbers, losing track, etc.

Trying to keep track of that may even cause anxiety and panic attacks, especially considering those emotionally suffering the most from ammo shortages these past 2 years - we really need to consider their mental health predicament.

Thus, to make this simple and ease the burden of stress on those poor souls, all magazines should come in at least 20rd and 50rd capacities, whereby anything above that is belt-feed.

I think that is a happy medium that any politician who truly cares about the health and welfare of our fellow California citizens, would surely adopt and be a proponent of the plan.

And it's for the children; they don't like math either.

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Except they would be physically too large in pistols

[IVC]

Except they would be physically too large in pistols

Hey, who are you calling a wuss? :-)

[The Gleam]

Except they would be physically too large in pistols

I actually have 20 round and 50 round mags for some select pistols.

Think BIGLY!!!!!

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