10mm vs 45acp, 44mag, 9mm etc.?

[SPROCKET]

.44 special... 'cause they only use the metric system in countries that don't let you own guns.

[supermario]

If you look at the pic sideways, its looks like something else

[Pistolwhipped]

LOL!

If you look at the pic sideways, its looks like something else

[sd_shooter]

Just read this report at the mother lode:
(ie. where the nuke pic was stolen from)

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

Properly designed hollow-point ammunition - regardless of caliber - all perform very close to each other when you take expanded diameter and penetration depth into account.

[Napalm Bulldog]

9MM Stats according to GLOCKWORLD.COM
1100fps
336ft/lbs


357SIG
1350fps
502ft/lbs

40S&W
1200fps
496 t/lbs

10MM
1290fps
649ft/lbs

45ACP
900fps
412ft/lbs

45GAP
950fps
401ft/lbs

.22LR
1,260ftp
134ft/lbs

22 Conv. Kit

[wildhawker]

Dude- your avatar looks just like someone that works for me except my employee is...............hotter.

I don't fish off my own docks but she shoots and have said she'd go w/ me to the range.....double

[Napalm Bulldog]

There has been a documented case in Texas where a police officer's .45 round did not penetrate a tractor-trailer's shell, but a .357 SIG round from a backup officer's gun did, killing the suspect inside. The round's ability to penetrate barriers is the main reason for its adoption by law enforcement agencies.Plus body armor doesnt stop it.

[B Strong]

Performance wise 45acp < 10mm < .44 mag. 9mm is good for volume, not much more. .44 mag only comes in revolvers and is a novelty round. If you are looking for a good HD gun, stick with 40, 45, or even 10mm if you are afraid a pack of linebackers might attack you.

LOL!

I use self loaders for defensive carry, but I wouldn't feel naked with a model 29 and three speed loaders.

[CD MCKINNEY]

10MM is the one
Double Tap 200 gr. XTP/JHP [1290/705]
PM10-S.jpg

[JTROKS]

There has been a documented case in Texas where a police officer's .45 round did not penetrate a tractor-trailer's shell, but a .357 SIG round from a backup officer's gun did, killing the suspect inside. The round's ability to penetrate barriers is the main reason for its adoption by law enforcement agencies.Plus body armor doesnt stop it.

357 Sig has a little more power than the 38 Super +p and if you look really close to 357 magnum ballistics fired from a 4" or less barrel they are very close to 357 Sig. The 357 magnum shines when heavy bullets are used in which there are none commercially available for the 357 Sig. Having 10 rounds of 357 Magnum plus a quick reload is something else, but the 10mm has it beat paper ballistic wise.

[SCMA-1]

And here's the caliber comparison pic that the OP requested:



From left to right: .50 BMG, 20 ga. 2.75", 7.62mm NATO, 5.56mm NATO, .50 AE, .45 ACP, .40 S&W, .357 Magnum, .38 Special, 9mm Luger, .32 ACP and .22 LR

*edit: crud, noticed it doesn't have .44mag or 10mm...

More caliber comparison (left to right): 30mm, 25mm, 20mm, .50 BMG, .375 H&H Magnum, 30-06, .308 Win, .223 Rem.

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[vf111]

Glock 20 + 15 rounds Double Tap ammo = enough tears in Space Time Continuum to make William Shatner not a caricature of himself.

[nrakid88]

This is cool but the original it came from doesn't even have a 10mm shown. The entire 10mm part was photoshoped. It would be interesting to actually see a full power 10mm load tested in ballistic gelatin next to other loads like 9mm and 45 acp.

[socomIInato]

This is cool but the original it came from doesn't even have a 10mm shown. The entire 10mm part was photoshoped. It would be interesting to actually see a full power 10mm load tested in ballistic gelatin next to other loads like 9mm and 45 acp.

that 10mm is one of those explosive bullets we keep hearing aboutnuclear that is.

[NeoWeird]

What you also have to remember is that the 10mm was initially designed at a specific bullet weight & velocity. It was WAY too powerful for the FBI, who were the original contract holders of handguns first chambered in it, so ammunition manufacturers dumbed it down. It was still too powerful, so S&W shortened the case, essentially making a 10mm short, and the .40S&W was born. 95% of most ammunition loaders still load 10mm at the lower 'FBI' loadings instead of their intended loadings.

If properly loaded, the 10mm shoots farther and flatter than the 9mm, has more energy, expansion, and penetration than a .45, and can easily punch through personal ballistic armor. Only problem is that it's VERY possible to shoot through targets and be insanely lethal behind them. Bottom line is Jeff Copper and the others KNEW what they were doing and they created one of the best commercial handgun rounds to date and it's only short comming was that it was TOO powerful. If collateral damage is not a problem, it's arguably the best round around right now, considering options, accessories, platforms, etc.

For that reason though, it's intended and especially hot loadings should be avoided for the average person and it shouldn't be used as a home defense round where family members, neighbors, etc could pose a risk for over penetration.