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  • #31
    BamBam-31
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Dec 2005
    • 5318

    ^^^Prolly just the particular pistol in question. Of the Beretta's I've shot, all have been very accurate and reliable. My only complaints are of the slide-mounted safety (big issue) and the somewhat hefty girth for a 9mm (almost a non-issue, really). Glocks are simply the cat's meow for me. My 17 is shamefully neglected, but it seems the more I neglect it, the better it shoots. Very much the AK of pistols. And don't let anyone tell you Glocks are only "combat accurate," either. I can ring the 100 yd. gong at ASR all day w/ mine. Indian, not the arrow.
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    • #32
      THT
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2009
      • 5140

      Out of that list, I'd carry the G17. It's got the diehard reliability Glocks are known for, great capacity (17+1) and isn't as prone to kBing as the .40 and .45 counterparts. A kaboom is rare enough but a 9mm Glock kabooming is like finding a unicorn eating a four leaf clover with a leprechaun riding it. Okay, maybe that's overstating it as 9mm kBs have happened but the documented cases are far fewer than the larger calibers. And kBs aren't isolated to Glocks either.
      Last edited by THT; 06-24-2009, 12:02 PM.
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      • #33
        thejackamo
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 88

        The only thing that worries me with Glocks is the stovepiping issue. Yeah I know, "don't limp wrist it you sissy!" but if you're ever in a stressful situation where you don't necessarily have time to observe good form, I'd rather have something that doesn't have the propensity of getting jammed when not shot in a "correct" manner - I'd rather have something that is going to go BANG no matter how I hold it.
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        • #34
          BamBam-31
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Dec 2005
          • 5318

          Originally posted by thejackamo
          The only thing that worries me with Glocks is the stovepiping issue. Yeah I know, "don't limp wrist it you sissy!" but if you're ever in a stressful situation where you don't necessarily have time to observe good form, I'd rather have something that doesn't have the propensity of getting jammed when not shot in a "correct" manner - I'd rather have something that is going to go BANG no matter how I hold it.
          I can't for the life of me get my G17 to stovepipe. Oh, wait....




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          • #35
            Black Majik
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 9695

            Originally posted by BamBam-31
            I can't for the life of me get my G17 to stovepipe. Oh, wait....


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            Heck, that quirky ol' G17 even spits out brass on the left side??

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            • #36
              BamBam-31
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Dec 2005
              • 5318

              Only if you're faster than fast and dodging errant hockey sticks...
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              • #37
                THT
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2009
                • 5140

                Originally posted by Black Majik
                Heck, that quirky ol' G17 even spits out brass on the left side??
                Could be worse...my father-in-law's ejector is slightly bent so it throws the brass at your forehead. It got sent in to Glock last week because he got tired of dodging brass.
                Last edited by THT; 06-24-2009, 2:35 PM. Reason: meant to type "ejector" instead of extractor
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                • #38
                  BamBam-31
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 5318

                  ^^^I believe that's an ejector angle problem, not the extractor.
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                  • #39
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44094

                    For the ultimate reliability, go for a quality wheelgun! What are you doing that you think you'll need more than a couple of rounds to defend yourself with? Having to have the most ammo you can tells me that you are either a very poor shot or are planning on being in situations that most intelligent people would be able to avoid.

                    If I was forced to choose from your list, I'd go with a G21 even though I prefer a 1911 or a revolver.
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                    • #40
                      hybridatsun350
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5336

                      Originally posted by BamBam-31
                      ^^^I believe that's an ejector angle problem, not the extractor.
                      Yea, sounds like it, but they are similar words that are commonly confused!
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                      • #41
                        THT
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 5140

                        Originally posted by BamBam-31
                        ^^^I believe that's an ejector angle problem, not the extractor.
                        Originally posted by hybridatsun350
                        Yea, sounds like it, but they are similar words that are commonly confused!
                        Bingo. This is what happens you stay home from work, sick as a dog and wandering forums aimlessly
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                        • #42
                          radioed22
                          Member
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 233

                          I say the glock 17. With 17 in the mag of federal hst ammo. Easy maintenance and would trust my life to it.

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                          • #43
                            Jonathan Doe

                            I have fired most of the guns on the list and haven't had any problem with them.

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                            • #44
                              smlockdown
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69

                              how does the glock handle the +p+ loads? Any issues there?

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                              • #45
                                supermario
                                Veteran Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 4569

                                Originally posted by JTROKS
                                I own a 5906 for over 15 years now and I haven't had any FTF nor FTE with any factory ammo of all sorts of bullet profiles. I did have some cycling problems with some really light target loads, but that's not the gun's fault. I have a Glock 21 and 23 and I must say that firing the G21 one handed loosely will give it some problems cycling. I haven't really put the G23 to the test, but so far so good with all the loads I've shot through it. The Beretta 92 I had was a very nice sample, accuracy with consistent 2" groups at 25 yards, very reliable too. I just didn't like it's size, but as a service pistol it's fine.

                                We have a 5906 in our family and a 910 and those DA Smiths are extremely reliable and great guns overall. I like the fact that you can chamber a round and have that simple safety to be ready to rock in roll. Great guns and we have not ever had ANY FTF FTE in 20yrs. Great guns, i think people dont like them becus they are not tacticool with a rail and actually have a safety!

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