Beretta 92 FS double action pull

[IVC]

Decocker vs. safety is my pet peeve so I'll chime in.

Even if you use the safety as a decocker-only and even if you always keep the "F" version with the safety off, if you are going to use that gun for self defense you *must* train as if the safety is "on" simply because it is capable of being in the "on" position. This means that when you draw, you have to use your thumb to do the awkward forward/up push (as opposed to standard "down" push on 2011/CZ/etc.). If you don't, you're training incorrectly and are assuming the gun will be in the condition it might not be in.

We can argue that putting the safety into "off" position is similar to chambering the round, where you put the gun into specific condition and expect it to remain in it. This is not a good comparison. The round cannot "unchamber" itself spontaneously or through carrying in holster. Exposed safety lever can flip and it can be moved inadvertently during handling.

So, if you want to have a decocker, convert to "G" version. I still don't understand why Beretta even makes the "F" version when anyone using it for self defense would want the "G" version. The PX4 in my drawer is a "G" and my 92FS Compact is a "G."

[Robert1234]

Decocker vs. safety is my pet peeve so I'll chime in.

Even if you use the safety as a decocker-only and even if you always keep the "F" version with the safety off, if you are going to use that gun for self defense you *must* train as if the safety is "on" simply because it is capable of being in the "on" position. This means that when you draw, you have to use your thumb to do the awkward forward/up push (as opposed to standard "down" push on 2011/CZ/etc.). If you don't, you're training incorrectly and are assuming the gun will be in the condition it might not be in.

We can argue that putting the safety into "off" position is similar to chambering the round, where you put the gun into specific condition and expect it to remain in it. This is not a good comparison. The round cannot "unchamber" itself spontaneously or through carrying in holster. Exposed safety lever can flip and it can be moved inadvertently during handling.

So, if you want to have a decocker, convert to "G" version. I still don't understand why Beretta even makes the "F" version when anyone using it for self defense would want the "G" version. The PX4 in my drawer is a "G" and my 92FS Compact is a "G."

Yup.

[hardcore4sure]

The Beretta D spring and skeleton hammer is a BIG improvement over stock w/NO downside! However after that, the LTT 13lb hammer spring and LTT trigger bar is a must.... The reset is virtually instantaneous. I've done the LTT TGIB and it really makes the guns action as Silky as it looks. I've also replicated it by polishing stock parts piece by piece, but the LTT trigger bar is the KEY to the transformation! I've done them on the 92's and the PX4, vs Competition trigger pack (also very good), LTT is lighter and smoother IMHO and you get the Elite Skeloton hammer...looks cooler.

[SoftHeart]

"I still don't understand why Beretta even makes the "F" version when anyone using it for self defense would want the "G" version."....


I use it for SD, and the decocker/safety system has never been a problem for me, ever.

If it is a problem, the by all means convert/set up the gun the way you want, but for a boatload of folks like myself, it just isn't a problem.


Trained on my Father's 92F, and then it came to me after he passed on, and I've had it for close to 30 yrs. now.

I grasp the slide in one spot, always, and have never swiped across the safety lever by accident putting the gun on saftey.


Decock the hammer; I always trained/practiced "down and then up" as one motion, always. "down and then up"=one thing, every time.



Many folks overthink the safety/decocker, safety on, nothing works except the slide, safety off, everything works and racking the slide will cock the hammer.


When folks get into the "you've done "A", but not "B", so you'll be able to do "C" kind of specifics, that just tends to confuse folks, and tends to make the safety/decocker more intimidating than it is.

Again, get the gun, you want, set up the way you want, absolutely, but the gun sells because for some folks, it just isn't a problem.



Safety on, nothing works except the slide.
Safety off, everything works including cocking the hammer.
Down and then up to decock the hammer w/the safety off.



Yes, you are absolutely correct, you've got to train w/this gun, but folks should be doing that w/any gun they acquire.


I'm not suggesting it should be ok for you if it isn't, and your reasoning is right from your perspective, just saying that for some folks it just isn't a problem.

[SoftHeart]

If you're experienced/disciplined to where that discipline is your safety, confident enough in that discipline to where you won't shoot somebody by accident/blow your head off, then it follows that one road to take is a decocker only gun.

I'd never argue against that.


I've got 4 HK P series guns, so I wouldn't do that anyway.


But I'm not about to kick my Dad's gun to the curb, it works just fine 4 me.

[Wordupmybrotha]

I don't think the 92FS DA trigger is that heavy. But I guess it's what people are used to and their preference. 92FS DA trigger is WAY better than Taurus PT92.

[Robert1234]

I don't think the 92FS DA trigger is that heavy. But I guess it's what people are used to and their preference. 92FS DA trigger is WAY better than Taurus PT92.

It was comparable to most other DA/SA guns I've shot.

Serviceable, but lighter is always better when it comes to DA triggers. And if all it costs me is the price of a spring (>$10.00), it's money well spent.

[TrailerparkTrash]

The D spring is common and also sanctioned by Beretta USA. The mod is done all the time. Welcome to the party.

[hambam105]

There is always someone willing to tell me how great Taurus PTs are compared to original Beretta.
When I see these same people on the range a year or two later I don't see them with there PTs.

[denpython]

Taurus did a better job on the trigger with the PT92 but I don't think anything interchanges between the two.

I agree! Mine is a 1989 vintage and it has a nice light and crisp trigger. I thought about the trigger bar upgrade but my trigger weight already is at par with post upgrade Beretta quoted weights.

[Robert1234]

I agree! Mine is a 1989 vintage and it has a nice light and crisp trigger. I thought about the trigger bar upgrade but my trigger weight already is at par with post upgrade Beretta quoted weights.

The Langdon trigger bar does nothing for pull weight, it shortens SA reset and overtravel distance.