HK P2000 on Roster

[Elshauno]

Seems like they moved P2000 production to their US plant in Georgia. So did the German-made P2000s just go way up in value? I can definitely see a collector wanting to pay more for the German proof marks and such.

[abinsinia]

I've not seen one that says "Make in USA" . I think we would need to contact HK to find out exactly what they're doing with the roster.

[tuna quesadilla]

I've not seen one that says "Make in USA" . I think we would need to contact HK to find out exactly what they're doing with the roster.

Considering that these new listings were just added to the roster on September 1, I'm going to put on my thinking cap here and surmise it's perfectly within expectations that the P2000 you picked up "a couple weeks ago" was made in Germany.

[SkyHawk]

My brand new P2000 9mm DROSd "exactly 4 days ago" at a major big box retailer, which was shipped in from their fresh warehouse inventory, also made in Germany.

And moving semi auto pistol production and getting CA DOJ blessing for continued roster approval is almost unheard of. Just look at Glock, Colt etc. Far more often than not, moving production is the kiss of death for your roster listing.

It is possible of course, but it is a big hurdle...

[tuna quesadilla]

My brand new P2000 9mm DROSd "exactly 4 days ago" at a major big box retailer, which was shipped in from their fresh warehouse inventory, also made in Germany.

Yes, that’s within expectations, too.

Gosh, are you guys actually under the impression that, because the USA-made P2000s just hit the roster 13 days ago, all Germany-made P2000s will have just instantly vanished and been magically replaced with USA-made models? Give it time; I’m sure you’ll see them eventually.

And moving semi auto pistol production and getting CA DOJ blessing for continued roster approval is almost unheard of. Just look at Glock, Colt etc. Far more often than not, moving production is the kiss of death for your roster listing.

It is possible of course, but it is a big hurdle...

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[Harry Ono]

My brand new P2000 9mm DROSd "exactly 4 days ago" at a major big box retailer, which was shipped in from their fresh warehouse inventory, also made in Germany.

And moving semi auto pistol production and getting CA DOJ blessing for continued roster approval is almost unheard of. Just look at Glock, Colt etc. Far more often than not, moving production is the kiss of death for your roster listing.

It is possible of course, but it is a big hurdle...

I find that statement on the website puzzling, why would they continue to make such a statement (updated) unless they will eventually allow
Gen4/5 to be sold in California. If you had no intentions of selling Gen4/5 no such statement would be needed. No such statement is made
regarding other manufacturers.


As far as moving equipment and such, California never gave a damn
about manufacturing/factories. They rather give out foreign made narcotics.

[abinsinia]

My brand new P2000 9mm DROSd "exactly 4 days ago" at a major big box retailer, which was shipped in from their fresh warehouse inventory, also made in Germany.

And moving semi auto pistol production and getting CA DOJ blessing for continued roster approval is almost unheard of. Just look at Glock, Colt etc. Far more often than not, moving production is the kiss of death for your roster listing.

It is possible of course, but it is a big hurdle...

This is the reason this is so curious. If HK is allowed to have US production it means those listings are new listings , and California has changed policies ..

[morrcarr67]

My brand new P2000 9mm DROSd "exactly 4 days ago" at a major big box retailer, which was shipped in from their fresh warehouse inventory, also made in Germany.

And moving semi auto pistol production and getting CA DOJ blessing for continued roster approval is almost unheard of. Just look at Glock, Colt etc. Far more often than not, moving production is the kiss of death for your roster listing.

It is possible of course, but it is a big hurdle...

Didn't Seacamp do it?



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[SkyHawk]

Didn't Seacamp do it?



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I don't know, last I heard about the Seecamp saga was this

Have you been fallowing what's been going on with the roster and Smith & Wesson and Ruger?

Both Smith and Ruger are letting their semi-autos fall off the roster.

You know why don't you?

If not I'll tell you.

Both Smith and Ruger are going to be doing some changes in the manufacturing of all their semi-autos. This would cause a need for "re"-Listing their guns. Meaning that they would need to meet all of the new requirements; ie - Microstamping.

The way CA roster laws are written ANY change in the manufacturing would trigger the "re"-Listing rules. So that means if they just sold all the stuff and someone else is going to be doing the manufacturing of these little guns that would trigger the "re"-Listing rules and need Microstamping to be listed under the new manufacturing process.

That thread sort of died without a conclusion. So did they move production or just change ownership?

Simply changing owners would be one thing, seems like a low hurdle. Moving machines to another facility even in another state would be another thing, higher hurdle but perhaps not insurmountable. But moving production to a new facility in a different country, and using new machines altogether? That may be the bridge too far for DOJ.

If it is so easy, why did Colt, Glock, and Ruger not do it?

[elSquid]

That thread sort of died without a conclusion. So did they move production or just change ownership? If it is so easy, why did Colt, Glock, and Ruger not do it?