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  • 2Stroke
    Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 308

    Which red dot on a 1911?

  • #2
    Rover
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 740

    Easiest/best option right now is the Trijicon saddle for an RMR, they choose an RMR pattern optic to put on it.

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    • #3
      BEE
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 2904

      Mill for the Trijicon RMR/SRO mount with the integrated rear sight, and top it off with a RMR.

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      • #4
        whan
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 209

        I'd send it off to Nighthawk to get their IOS system installed.

        Plate returns to zero; Rear sight alignment between plates; Fully machined from prehard material; Standard Novak sight cut; Low profile; Quick and easy plate removal; Standard Hight front sight for either iron sight or red dot use


        Otherwise if just looking for a low cost drop-in option, What Rover said regarding the Trijicon Saddle. Note the dot will sit a bit high and you won't be able to cowitness iron sights, but that's probably not a big deal for a plinker / range toy

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        • #5
          jmatt511
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 688

          Had multiple slides milled by Parker Mountain Machine. They do good work. Had a Trijicon RMR. It failed twice. It was replaced one and then repaired once. I didn’t feel I could trust it not to fail when I needed it. It was replaced by a Holosun 507 C. It’s robust and has not failed in 18 months of hard use. I now have 4 on my 1911s. Determine what works best for you.
          Cry Havoc.... and let slip the Dogs of War.

          Shakespeare: Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I

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          • #6
            Peahi2
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2018
            • 818

            For your range gun, the trijicon SRO might be a better option than the RMR with its bigger round window. I use both RMR and SRO like them both...no real preference for range and classes.

            I can't comment on a holosun other than one will be my next red dot purchase, just to try them out.

            If you can spend a little to get the nighthawk IOS option, I think its a good one since you won't have to use suppressor height sights, you can keep your original front site. Their shop is probably busy as hell, but I imagine the end product would be well worth the wait. This option also enables a quick switch back to regular iron if you want to take off the optic/plate.


            My RMR has been on my glock for almost 19K rounds. It was put on board in 3/18. I haven't gotten around to changing the battery yet. I've had no problems with it. Early RMRs had problems (flickering dots/battery contact issues). The modern RMRs are Type 2.
            Last edited by Peahi2; 08-05-2021, 8:05 PM.

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            • #7
              2Stroke
              Member
              • Jan 2017
              • 308

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              • #8
                fmunk
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 3896

                Originally posted by jmatt511
                Had multiple slides milled by Parker Mountain Machine. They do good work. Had a Trijicon RMR. It failed twice. It was replaced one and then repaired once. I didn’t feel I could trust it not to fail when I needed it. It was replaced by a Holosun 507 C. It’s robust and has not failed in 18 months of hard use. I now have 4 on my 1911s. Determine what works best for you.

                Gen 1 RMR are known to fail when subject to heavier recoil forces of larger calibers. Gen 2 was revised to address that specific short-coming. But, the Holosun alternatives remain having an edge over Trijicon because you don't have to remove the electro-optic to service the battery (and lose your zero).


                FS: Atlas Bipod, Custom G23 RMR slide, ETS mags, Jagerwerks, Recover G26/27, CZ Scorpion bits, etc.

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                • #9
                  Peahi2
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 818

                  I suggest bypassing the dovetail mount, and just using that money towards get a high quality slide mill in the first place.

                  That kind of mounting will be really high and unsatisfactory. You might as well invest all that money up front in a high quality slide cut where the red dot is mounted as low as possible for stability/durability/usability.

                  I get it, it costs a lot of money to get it done right. Remember at cal guns, if you take a short cut to save money, you will eventually end up paying for what you really wanted down the road.

                  Dress up that Kimber! lol.
                  Last edited by Peahi2; 08-06-2021, 1:45 PM.

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                  • #10
                    fmunk
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 3896

                    Originally posted by Peahi2
                    I suggest bypassing the dovetail mount, and just using that money towards get a high quality slide mill in the first place.

                    That kind of mounting will be really high and unsatisfactory.

                    Ditto. Furthermore, under current market conditions, lead time for milling might be long. Consider buying a second milled slide instead as an alternative. You can sell the standard slide or keep it... as opposed to having a paperweight frame for a few months or more.


                    FS: Atlas Bipod, Custom G23 RMR slide, ETS mags, Jagerwerks, Recover G26/27, CZ Scorpion bits, etc.

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                    • #11
                      2Stroke
                      Member
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 308

                      Originally posted by Peahi2
                      I suggest bypassing the dovetail mount, and just using that money towards get a high quality slide mill in the first place.

                      That kind of mounting will be really high and unsatisfactory. You might as well invest all that money up front in a high quality slide cut where the red dot is mounted as low as possible for stability/durability/usability.

                      I get it, it costs a lot of money to get it done right. Remember at cal guns, if you take a short cut to save money, you will eventually end up paying for what you really wanted down the road.

                      Dress up that Kimber! lol.

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                      • #12
                        Machosousa
                        Member
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 241

                        Depends how accurate you can shoot. RMR RM09 has a 1 MOA that’s really good for precise placement but the 3.25 MOA is good too if you don’t plan on going much further than 20 yards. Just make sure you go with “type 2” rmr that fixed a lot of issues from the “type 1” rmr. If you get anything other than trijicon people are going to secretly think you couldn’t afford one

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                        • #13
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                          • #14
                            jmatt511
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 688

                            Originally posted by fmunk
                            Gen 1 RMR are known to fail when subject to heavier recoil forces of larger calibers. Gen 2 was revised to address that specific short-coming. But, the Holosun alternatives remain having an edge over Trijicon because you don't have to remove the electro-optic to service the battery (and lose your zero).
                            Both of mine were Gen 2. The first failed to hold zero and would drift 5 MOA at 25 feet. The replacement RMR had both battery tabs break off while shooting at a class. I could not depend on it and it was subsequent sold
                            Cry Havoc.... and let slip the Dogs of War.

                            Shakespeare: Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I

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                            • #15
                              fmunk
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 3896

                              Most Holosun reflex sights use RMR pattern mount. The exceptions are the smaller “K” models meant for the slim CCW 9mm pistols. I would go for Holosun over Trijicon. Despite country of origin, they are high in quality and value. As mentioned, battery changes can be done without removing the sight and losing zero. Furthermore, there is now a model available with Primary Arms’ ACSS Vulcan reticle, which you will appreciate with your “experienced” eye sight. Trijicon, like Glock, has been far too complacent with their product development and engineering. Their decline in market share is their own fault.
                              Last edited by fmunk; 08-07-2021, 10:02 AM.


                              FS: Atlas Bipod, Custom G23 RMR slide, ETS mags, Jagerwerks, Recover G26/27, CZ Scorpion bits, etc.

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