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  • Mr. Blue
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    • Dec 2019
    • 2503

    1st Glock (gen3 19)

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  • #2
    rodralig
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2016
    • 4262

    Gratz!!!

    My Wife's firearm is a Glock 19 Gen 3, as well. But it has the Holosun HS407CO-X2, the one with the 8MOA circle. This particular reticle makes it easier for her in her particular use case - 15-yards and in, although, quite capable for precision head shots out to 25-yards, even at speed.

    Yeah - it also has the extended take down lever, a 15# ISMI guide rod, and the slide stop/release from the competition models to make it easier for her (she's 5' 1") to manipulate the firearm, especially during malfunction drills. The trigger is OEM but the connector is a 4.5 (minus) that has been Flitzed.

    That said...

    Originally posted by Mr. Blue
    The only other mod I plan on making is the Timney trigger. Although, the stock Glock trigger isn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be…after hearing so much about it.
    Those who say that the stock Glock trigger is bad is just using hardware as an excuse for a software problem.

    I have taken Glocks with stock triggers to matches and tactical/defensive classes. I never felt it being a hindrance - speed and accuracy. It was the other aspects of my skills as a shooter that did - visual acuity, transitions, movement, grip, presence of mind, etc.

    Here is a stage from a match in 2017 with a stock, even sights, Glock 19 Gen 3: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZJy6oiA000/ (what really slowed me down is a "brain fart" forgetting it was a mandatory unloaded start... and the division is 8-rounds only)



    Originally posted by Mr. Blue
    Steel/Tungsten guide rod?
    What are you expecting in terms of gains? Personally, I would shoot it a bit more, just to I can "learn" the gun (personally, I find the "characteristics" of the G19 very different from, say, the G34; and no, not the form factor but rather how the gun feels).


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    Last edited by rodralig; 07-08-2021, 11:14 PM.

    WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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    • #3
      JC2020
      Senior Member
      • May 2020
      • 821

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      • #4
        rodralig
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2016
        • 4262

        Originally posted by JC2020
        Nice! I still shoot my G19 best. Stock everything, including sights. They say you never forget your first love…


        Yeah! That is why I never have gotten rid yet of my Glock 22.

        The paper target when I first handled a firearm is in my signature. Was SO BAD a shooter - instead of getting a "low left" I was getting a "low right" as a RIGHT-handed shooter.


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        WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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        • #5
          Mr. Blue
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2019
          • 2503

          Originally posted by rodralig
          Gratz!!!

          My Wife's firearm is a Glock 19 Gen 3, as well. But it has the Holosun HS407CO-X2, the one with the 8MOA circle. This particular reticle makes it easier for her in her particular use case - 15-yards and in, although, quite capable for precision head shots out to 25-yards, even at speed.

          Yeah - it also has the extended take down lever, a 15# ISMI guide rod, and the slide stop/release from the competition models to make it easier for her (she's 5' 1") to manipulate the firearm, especially during malfunction drills. The trigger is OEM but the connector is a 4.5 (minus) that has been Flitzed.

          That said...



          Those who say that the stock Glock trigger is bad is just using hardware as an excuse for a software problem.

          I have taken Glocks with stock triggers to matches and tactical/defensive classes. I never felt it being a hindrance - speed and accuracy. It was the other aspects of my skills as a shooter that did - visual acuity, transitions, movement, grip, presence of mind, etc.

          Here is a stage from a match in 2017 with a stock, even sights, Glock 19 Gen 3: https://www.instagram.com/p/BZJy6oiA000/ (what really slowed me down is a "brain fart" forgetting it was a mandatory unloaded start... and the division is 8-rounds only)





          What are you expecting in terms of gains? Personally, I would shoot it a bit more, just to I can "learn" the gun (personally, I find the "characteristics" of the G19 very different from, say, the G34; and no, not the form factor but rather how the gun feels).


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          Very impressive. Great shooting! I bought some gear to try out USPSA but they cancelled it. Hopefully next month. But I’m going to use my 1911 for that, at least at first. For the guide rod, initially I just didn’t want a plastic one in my gun. The same way a person might change out a plastic mainspring housing. No real gains, other than longevity of the part. However, springs need to be changed out accordingly, so I’ll most likely never install a steel guide rod. Unless I find a reason.
          Last edited by Mr. Blue; 07-09-2021, 1:52 AM.
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          • #6
            highpower
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2012
            • 5303

            Glocks seem to bring out a lot of emotions in people, some love them and others take delight in ragging on them.

            I have a gen3 G19 that was my EDC for many years and have never had an issue with it and find the ergonomics to be quite acceptable. The trigger on the 19 has always been fine out of the box as I neither want, nor do I need a match trigger on a carry piece.

            That being said, the G48 I recently picked up to replace the G19 as my carry gun had a really stiff and creepy trigger. I have heard the same from others about the G43X/48 triggers but fortunately there is an easy fix. I replaced the stock trigger bar with one from Ghost and it was a great improvement. I have also heard good things about the Glock minus trigger bar. But in all honesty, I think that if you polish the bearing surfaces on the stock TB the trigger will be more than good enough.

            I know it is hard to due with the current ammo situation, but I think that after you put a few hundred rounds through it you will find that it will smooth out nicely.
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            • #7
              bergmen
              Senior Member
              • May 2011
              • 2488

              Our Gen3 G19s (wife bought hers first) are stock except I installed Tru-Glo sights on both. Never needed to touch any other detail for over 15 years of trouble-free, accurate performance. Shot mine yesterday, warming up for my CCW renewal class on Monday (7/12).

              Dan

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              • #8
                deanchoice
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2020
                • 55

                Who milled your slide OP? I have a gen 4 MOS, but the gen 3 fits my hand so perfectly without any backstrap or modification. I’m going back and forth trying to decide if I should keep the gen 4 or just mill the slide on my gen 3.

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                • #9
                  Vinnie Boombatz
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 3036

                  Originally posted by Mr. Blue


                  Holosun 507cGreen Dot
                  Undercut trigger guard
                  Finger groove removal

                  The only other mod I plan on making is the Timney trigger. Although, the stock Glock trigger isn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be…after hearing so much about it.

                  I’ve had a few different polymer guns and they are all very similar, but I get the hype when it comes to Glock. It took just under 50 rounds to consistently shoot well with it. I can shoot twice as well with the Glock compared to my Springfield XD or HKP2000sk, but thats just me.

                  Maybe an extended take down lever. I enjoy making a gun work just the way I like it. I know a lot of people subscribe to the stock Glock perfection. Steel/Tungsten guide rod?
                  Congrats on the Glock!

                  I was anti-Glock for a while, then finally broke down and bought one. Now I have two G17's!

                  I personally wouldn't waste your money on the tungsten guide rod. The changes I did to my Gen3 17's are:

                  - Vickers extended magazine release
                  - Vickers or Glock extended slide stop
                  - OEM Glock "-" connector
                  - Heine Straight 8 Ledge Sights
                  - Agency Arms magwell
                  - Vickers baseplates for Glock mags (these work really well with the Agency Arms magwell and really do help with stripping the mag out on a type 3 malfunction allowing for a really nice grip on the baseplate)

                  Of all the things listed above, the two that I would do for any Glock would be the extended magazine release and the Glock "-" minus connector. Everything else is just personal preference/icing on the cake.

                  I ran the gun in a 4-day class stock, then came home and made the changes and took another class. Really enjoyed the gun and shot it even better with the "upgrades" and changes I made. Peopel really crap on the stock Glock trigger, but it really isn't that bad, but I came from a DA/SA Beretta, so anything is better than that first DA pull. Sure, the Glock trigger isn't as nice as a 1911 trigger, but not much is. Throwing in that "-" minus connector really made it perfect for me. It's not a massive difference, but it just lightens the trigger enough, but it's nowhere near being a hair trigger. Still has a nice, tactile wall and a clean, crisp break. I also did a quick polishing to the components that literally takes all of 5 minutes. Debatable whether that makes much difference or not, but I've done it to two Glock 17's so far and have been VERY happy with the way the firearm turned out.

                  Also, if you do decide to put the stock trigger in and replace the connector, I wouldn't even bother messing with any of the aftermarket connectors. I tried several and thought they all sucked and changed the feel of the trigger too much, too mushy, no crisp wall, etc. The Glock minus connector is where it's at.

                  And I know sights are a very personal preference, but man, those Heinie Straight 8 sights are amazing and very accurate.

                  Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 07-09-2021, 10:13 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Oceanbob
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                    • Jun 2010
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                    • #11
                      Mr. Blue
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                      • Dec 2019
                      • 2503

                      A local gunsmith in Redding, CA. Everything was very affordable.
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                      • #12
                        kennymallory1
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 568




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                        • #13
                          bryanrheem
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2016
                          • 66

                          Originally posted by Mr. Blue
                          A local gunsmith in Redding, CA. Everything was very affordable.
                          Was it Keith? I want to do my G17 slide but keep the rear sights.

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                          • #14
                            Munny$hot
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 3665

                            Originally posted by Mr. Blue


                            Holosun 507cGreen Dot
                            Undercut trigger guard
                            Finger groove removal

                            The only other mod I plan on making is the Timney trigger. Although, the stock Glock trigger isn’t nearly as bad as I thought it would be…after hearing so much about it.

                            I’ve had a few different polymer guns and they are all very similar, but I get the hype when it comes to Glock. It took just under 50 rounds to consistently shoot well with it. I can shoot twice as well with the Glock compared to my Springfield XD or HKP2000sk, but thats just me.

                            Maybe an extended take down lever. I enjoy making a gun work just the way I like it. I know a lot of people subscribe to the stock Glock perfection. Steel/Tungsten guide rod?
                            I'd avoid the Timney Alpha Trigger unless it's for range only ie non HD or duty due to the fact that it eliminates the firing pin drop safety (cocked all the time) and the trigger return spring on some kits sometimes fail to return the trigger fully causing the trigger safety to be bypassed. By passing 1 and potentially 2 of the 3 safeties makes it a no go for me. If you want a smother trigger a factory minus - or dot * with some grease where the firing pin/trigger sear connect. That is all that is needed for a smooth, safe trigger for a duty/HD rig.
                            Last edited by Munny$hot; 07-14-2021, 1:05 PM.
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                            • #15
                              5.56Geo
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 1889

                              Originally posted by Munny$hot
                              I'd avoid the Timney Alpha Trigger unless it's for range only ie non HD or duty due to the fact that it eliminates the firing pin drop safety (cocked all the time) and the trigger return spring on some kits sometimes fail to return the trigger fully causing the trigger safety to be bypassed. By passing 1 and potentially 2 of the 3 safeties makes it a no go for me. If you want a smother trigger a factory minus - or dot * with some grease where the firing pin/trigger sear connect. That is all that is needed for a smooth, safe trigger for a duty/HD rig.
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