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  • hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19365

    How much can you undercut from a polymer frame




    You see the trigger guard deforming a bit during recoil.


    How thin can you cut the trigger guard before you risk it breaking?
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
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  • #2
    smittty
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2008
    • 6254

    Reduce to half the thickness.

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    • #3
      SkyHawk
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      • Sep 2012
      • 23518

      Go all the way


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      • #4
        JTROKS
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        • Nov 2007
        • 13093

        I usually don’t go thinner that .090” on Glock trigger guards when grinding/milling the relief and under cut.
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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19365

          Are there many cases of the trigger guard breaking from being overly undercut?
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            morrcarr67
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2010
            • 15018

            That looks ridiculous.

            Originally posted by SkyHawk
            Go all the way


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            • #7
              223556
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3344

              Looking at the video it appears to be a Sig Pro with no modifications to the trigger guard.
              I’ve seen videos of Glocks as well with the same flex the Sig is showing.
              Dunno what the max amount of polymer one can remove before compromising the frame.
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              • #8
                sonofeugene
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 4405

                Most reductions of material I've seen take it way too far. And I should also point out that the trigger guard need not be reduced throughout its thickness. All of one needs is a little angled cut on the right side (if you're a right handed shooter) to give you the relief you need for comfort. The middle of the guard can remain full thickness.

                Next time you pick up your gun, grip it as you would if you were going to shoot it and point it at a mirror. Now look at the angle your finger is at compared to the bottom horizontal edge of the guard. You'll see what I mean.
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                • #9
                  Dano3467
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 7381

                  I guess my 1st question would be is, WHY ?

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                  • #10
                    sonofeugene
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 4405

                    On some guns, the guard can be a little on the sharp side.
                    Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                    A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

                    Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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                    • #11
                      hermosabeach
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19365

                      bore axis

                      Originally posted by Dano3467
                      I guess my 1st question would be is, WHY ?
                      To get a higher grip on the pistol...

                      because you have dainty hands and don't like the frame rub...
                      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                      • #12
                        Wheellock
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 1112

                        It would be interesting to see that slow motion done with a heavy light hanging on it...or a rail mounted comp

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                        • #13
                          FNGGlock
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 1289

                          Originally posted by hermosabeach
                          Are there many cases of the trigger guard breaking from being overly undercut?
                          Lots of people have cut Glocks as they do have a thick trigger guard. Not heard of any breaking.
                          Though you only need to take a little to improve comfort and grip. On mine you have to look carefully to even notice it.

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                          • #14
                            SharedShots
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2021
                            • 2277

                            Before you start undercutting make sure the problem you want to solve is really the trigger guard and not the fit of your hand down lower. Here is why I say this:

                            On the Gen3 you have the finger groves and with some models like the 19/23 there is sometimes a tendency to want to get the small finger onto the grip which then crowds the other fingers upward. The thought is that by undercutting the trigger guard that it solves the problem by giving you more room when it really doesn't. With the slightly different grips on the Gen 5 for example, this doesn't present itself the same way.

                            If you undercut the trigger guard and then your middle finger moves upward slightly that can also cause pressure on the trigger finger to move slightly upward and it doesn't take much to affect control.

                            Check your handgrip. Keeping the trigger finger out of the guard and pointing parallel to the slide look between the knuckle and first finger joint for the trigger and middle finger (normal grip). If there is no gap or only a very thin one, undercutting the trigger guard isn't the problem and cutting it will likely have a detrimental effect on trigger control as your index finger will be pushed up slightly and then angle down a very small amount during trigger operation.

                            To test further, ignore the position of the small finger, pretend it doesn't matter. You can tape a popsicle stick or something like that as a split to keep it straight out and then grip your pistol. Do you still feel the crowding or does it no longer matter? You might find that it's not the trigger guard at all and you're chasing something that won't help. Maybe a mag extension (keeping in mind round capacity) gives you the small finger support you want.

                            Don't forget, once you cut the trigger guard that's it, there is no going back easily or cheaply. There is sometimes a tendency to want to grip the pistol higher when that can make your index finger angle down when controlling the trigger. It should the a parallel and straight pull on the trigger and then you won't have to adjust your grip after each shot or at least not as much.

                            Before you go cutting away at your own pistol, find someone else who went at theirs because an idea is cheap but a dremel is priced into the new gun because you hacked up the old one.
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                            • #15
                              boopiejones
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 2044

                              Originally posted by sonofeugene
                              Most reductions of material I've seen take it way too far. And I should also point out that the trigger guard need not be reduced throughout its thickness. All of one needs is a little angled cut on the right side (if you're a right handed shooter) to give you the relief you need for comfort. The middle of the guard can remain full thickness.

                              Next time you pick up your gun, grip it as you would if you were going to shoot it and point it at a mirror. Now look at the angle your finger is at compared to the bottom horizontal edge of the guard. You'll see what I mean.
                              my Benitez goes to 11

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