New Python action question

[D1911]

Just an FYI. Picked up my 6" Python from The Gun Range in Sac today and they had one (a 6") in the counter for $1549. Was told they got four in recently and that's the last one in stock.

[Canadadry]

Nice. I pick mine up today from Sportsmans Warehouse. $1499 before tax and fees.

[D1911]

New Python action question

So I picked up my new (current production) 6" Python today, nice looking gun. The double action trigger pull is good, but the single action has me concerned. With the hammer cocked in single action, if I press the trigger slowly, the hammer actually moves to the rear before it drops (reminds me of the single action pull on a standard CZ 75). Also, If I hold the trigger all the way back and move the hammer from full forward to full rear position, I can feel the hammer catching on something toward the full cock position. I've also noticed that if I have the gun cocked in single action and hold the hammer while pressing the trigger, I can occasionally feel the hammer catch on something right after it breaks. So, anyone else with a new Python have the same issue with the action? I really want to love this gun, but the action has me concerned. Thanks!

[SkyHawk]

So I picked up my new (current production) 6" Python today, nice looking gun. The double action trigger pull is good, but the single action has me concerned. With the hammer cocked in single action, if I press the trigger slowly, the hammer actually moves to the rear before it drops

That sounds like positive sear/hammer engagement (as opposed to neutral or negative). Perhaps a little overly-positive. Maybe normal when lawyers are involved.

Have you removed the grips to see if you can get a look at anything that may be hanging up the hammer? Maybe just dry firing this thing a bit while watching Dirty Harry is all you need

[D1911]

Popped off the grips, but really can't see much in the action. I did notice a couple of spots at the top of the grip frame (under the grip) that looked like they had been ground on (Grip fit perhaps?), and not finished like the rest of the frame. Doesn't affect function, but should have been cleaned up. On my S&Ws, I'd normally just pop the side plate and take a look see, but, I think I'll give Colt a call on Monday to see what they say.

Dang, so far, not impressed. Thinkin' I shoulda just stuck with my 6" Model 66 Smolt...

[Dano3467]

These things aren't cheap. I'd be a little disappointed too.

[sigstroker]

So these dropped from 2 grand street price to 1500 during the most inflationary gun period in memory?

[dfletcher]

After the initial QC problems settled down and folks got over the "it's not a real Python" rejoinders the one issue that has stuck is the lousy SA trigger pull. You'll have to remove the sideplate to see it but yes, the sear to sear notch engagement is positive, and too much so far as I'm concerned. A Python hammer ought not cam back nearly as much as a stock triggered AR 15.

Unlike S&W I don't see the Python engagement evening out much. S&W uses a two stage camming action to lift the hammer, Colt uses a single "lifter" which results in longer hammer travel and puts the sear & sear notch engagement in a more positive engagement. If there's a hitch in a Smith SA trigger pull it tends to wear away very quickly.

I used 1500 grit graphite paper on the sear notch. Very, very light hand. It helped a fair amount, not as much as I'd have liked, but enough that I'll see how things settle before doing any more. So far as I know, there are no parts being put out by Colt yet, if there's any "user error" fiddling about with the gun it's back to Colt she goes.

As an aside, if anyone does remove the sideplate be careful - the "Z spring" actuating the cylinder thumbpiece drops out at a sneeze.

[Skip_Dog]

Turner's had one Tuesday. $1500

[I Swan]

So these dropped from 2 grand street price to 1500 during the most inflationary gun period in memory?

Yes they have been dropping. In height of the pandemic I paid $1600. My next one was $1500. I saw them sell well over $2000 at one point on GunBroker. Some CGNers still try to get that. Bump, bump, bump!

[D1911]

Called Colt and talked with a customer rep. When I explained the above issues, he said I sounded like a "more discriminating owner" (I wonder if meant anal?) and explained that what I detailed was normal for the new Python. He said in order for the gun to pass the California and Massachusetts drop test (which requires the gun to be dropped with the hammer cocked), the sear engagement has to be heavy (or more positive I guess), which results in the hammer travel rearwards in single action prior to release (and likely the glitch I feel when I manually lower the hammer in SA). He said the gun could likely benefit from a custom action tune, which of course Colt doesn't offer, and otherwise unless I had a specific problem to address (which they would be happy to evaluate), there was nothing they would do. Didn't even ask about the grind marks.

Maybe I'll shoot it and see if anything improves, or take it to my local smith to see if he can correct it. Pretty disappointed and won't buy another Colt.

[xMAC1x]

I’ve been following this, I bought one last Friday and didn’t pull the trigger in single action because I didn’t want to be disappointed.

When it first came out at shot show the Colt representative said we got it just like the original.
Than it was released and early reviews and owners had light primer strikes.
The ones that came after with the update report are 10 and 5lb single action trigger.
The old school ones I believe are 7 & 3. Numbers don’t lie that’s way off the mark.

[DrewN]

Lawyers gonna lawyer.

[Maximus Prime]

The new one I have in the 21xxx range is 9lb DA and 5lb SA.
Oiled it and now both DA and SA are smooth. But yes the hammer does move slightly backwards in SA pull.

[xMAC1x]

6” 20015xx picked it up on the 29th, fit finish very well done, it looks really good in person . Haven’t made it to the range yet. Dry firing the trigger it’s smooth but heavy. SA is very heavy, not satisfied on that part.