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  • youpock
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 462

    Quick question about .50

    There is a .50 eagle in the market section. If the owner legally owns it; is it legal for him to transfer it to me; and then I legally own it? I've been trying to search around but I'm not finding too much about transfers along these lines. Any info or search keyword advice would be much appreciated! Thanks
  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    If the handgun is in CA, it can be legally transfered via PPT or intra-familial gift.
    Last edited by Quiet; 05-30-2009, 7:31 PM.
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    • #3
      virulosity
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 1569

      I think you are confused by the 50 BMG ban. The desert eagle is 50AE

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      • #4
        SJgunguy24
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2008
        • 14849

        Originally posted by virulosity
        I think you are confused by the 50 BMG ban. The desert eagle is 50AE
        I hope the OP is talking about a 50AE, that hurts just thinking about shooting a 50BMG handgun
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        • #5
          youpock
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 462

          I'm defiantly n00b as far as guns go. I've had a few 870's since I was young and I got an xd a while back but have always been interested in a Desert Eagle. So its allowed in CA even though its 50 cal?

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          • #6
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            • Oct 2005
            • 44658

            Originally posted by youpock
            I'm defiantly n00b as far as guns go. I've had a few 870's since I was young and I got an xd a while back but have always been interested in a Desert Eagle. So its allowed in CA even though its 50 cal?
            Yes. The 50 cal limitation is ONLY .50 BMG rifles. Other .50s are not affected.
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            • #7
              RolinThundr
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 1228

              Originally posted by youpock
              I'm defiantly n00b as far as guns go....always been interested in a Desert Eagle. So its allowed in CA even though its 50 cal?
              So...as you have already heard, .50 cal Handguns are legal, only the inherently evil .50 BMG rifles are banned, due to the overwhelming use of them in the commission of crimes.

              This link should be helpful to you:



              It's a PDF summarizing CA's firearms laws. I would also suggest bookmarking the CA AG's website, they have a "firearms" link to a wealth of information:



              Just a word of caution, before you get too excited and run out to buy your Desert Eagle, check out www.youtube.com for "Desert Eagle .50" and notice that few, if any, of the shooters shown in the videos actually demonstrate that they can control the darn thing. If you have fired one and know what you're getting into, go for it, but I'd recommend finding one to rent or borrow first if you have not. Years ago I was aiming for a DE .50 as well, but as my understanding and experience with firearms increased I came to the realization that the gun was just not practical for defense. Usually, I don't try to persuade anyone to make one decision or another in regards to their purchases, but I'd hate for someone to make a purchase and be disappointed. Hope you don't mind my butting in.
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              • #8
                Guns R Tools
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1782

                You can't buy 50AE new from dealer because it is not on CA DOJ roster.
                But you can buy from someone who has one already.
                Or you can buy 44 mag, new, from dealer and upgrade to 50AE with new barrel and magazine.

                Currently you can buy these two from dealer brand new.

                DE44CA BC / Steel Pistol 6" .44 Magnum 6/11/2010

                Desert Eagle Mark XIX DE44CA/blk oxide / Steel Pistol 6" .44 Magnum 7/19/2009
                'Cuz big holes are easier to see.

                You can correct my spelling and grammar error anytime.
                I welcome it. How else would I learn.

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                • #9
                  youpock
                  Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 462

                  Originally posted by RolinThundr

                  Just a word of caution, before you get too excited and run out to buy your Desert Eagle, check out www.youtube.com for "Desert Eagle .50" and notice that few, if any, of the shooters shown in the videos actually demonstrate that they can control the darn thing. If you have fired one and know what you're getting into, go for it, but I'd recommend finding one to rent or borrow first if you have not. Years ago I was aiming for a DE .50 as well, but as my understanding and experience with firearms increased I came to the realization that the gun was just not practical for defense. Usually, I don't try to persuade anyone to make one decision or another in regards to their purchases, but I'd hate for someone to make a purchase and be disappointed. Hope you don't mind my butting in.
                  Thanks for the PDF, everything I had been reading about gun laws have been summary or brief's; no actual legal documents. Sometimes the legal ones have more vocabulary and jargon but are defiantly more complete. As far as the purpose for the gun I wouldn't use it for defense. I've shot a .50 and a .44 and both of them aren't really would I would want to run too in a time of need. It would be more for the ranch with just leisure shooting. I have an xd-40 that I keep in my house for defensive purposes.

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                  • #10
                    virulosity
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1569

                    When did it fall off the roster? Turners had them in stock less than 6 months ago?

                    Originally posted by Guns R Tools
                    You can't buy 50AE new from dealer because it is not on CA DOJ roster.
                    But you can buy from someone who has one already.
                    Or you can buy 44 mag, new, from dealer and upgrade to 50AE with new barrel and magazine.

                    Currently you can buy these two from dealer brand new.

                    DE44CA BC / Steel Pistol 6" .44 Magnum 6/11/2010

                    Desert Eagle Mark XIX DE44CA/blk oxide / Steel Pistol 6" .44 Magnum 7/19/2009

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                    • #11
                      ke6guj
                      Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 23725

                      Originally posted by virulosity
                      When did it fall off the roster? Turners had them in stock less than 6 months ago?
                      AFAIK, the .50DE has never been Rostered. I don't see it on the expired list.

                      Maybe it was a cosignment piece that Turners had, or perhaps it was the .44mag version, offered with a extra .50DE conversion?
                      Jack



                      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

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                      • #12
                        RolinThundr
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 1228

                        Originally posted by youpock
                        As far as the purpose for the gun I wouldn't use it for defense. I've shot a .50 and a .44 and both of them aren't really would I would want to run too in a time of need. It would be more for the ranch with just leisure shooting. I have an xd-40 that I keep in my house for defensive purposes.
                        I'm chuckling as I read your response...my defensive weapon is an XD-40 as well...and after I posted last night I realized that there is a good chance that a lot of people, including me, probably have at least one gun in the collection that we just like to shoot for the fun of it! Enjoy the purchase!

                        If you have parents or siblings living outside of CA, they could purchase the DE 50 for you and you can register it as an intrafamilial transfer, which is what I did for one gun:
                        Last edited by RolinThundr; 05-31-2009, 6:26 PM.
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                        "The more corrupt the state, the more laws." -Tacitus, Publius Cornelius

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by RolinThundr
                          If you have parents or grandparents living outside of CA, they could purchase the DE 50 for you and send it to a CA FFL dealer, since it's an inter-familial gift it is exempt from the approved list.
                          Fixed it for you.

                          Siblings (brothers/sisters) are not allowable for intra-familial transfers.
                          Intra-familial gift across state lines still requires the firearm to go through a CA FFL dealer. There is no Federal intra-familial gift exemption. Just sending in the form on an intra-familial gift that came from out-of-state will satisfy the CA DOJ, but the parties involved can still be charged with Federal felonies for violating Federal law.
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                          • #14
                            youpock
                            Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 462

                            Aside from the regular private party transfer. Do I have to do anything else special to get the gun?

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                            • #15
                              -hanko
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 14174

                              Originally posted by Quiet
                              Fixed it for you.

                              There is no Federal intra-familial gift exemption. Just sending in the form on an intra-familial gift that came from out-of-state will satisfy the CA DOJ, but the parties involved can still be charged with Federal felonies for violating Federal law.
                              I somehow don't see the "Federal felonies"...the weapon is purchased legally out of state and sent as a gift to OP. OP transfers the weapon at his ffl, does the 10-day wait, etc.

                              Where are the Felonies??

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