Glock 22 vs Glock 23

[oakland1067]

I have all three, 22, 23 and 27. I am planning to dump the 22 when I'm eligible for my 5 again. I love shooting my 23, I carry my 27, and really do not shoot the 22. All are very accurate, more so than I would have thought capable. The 23/19 sized frame seem to be the Goldilocks of the glock line. Hang in there, just practice, get some coaching. I prefer 40's over 9 for self defense, as well as plinking/hunting sidearm.

[jeremiah12]

If you are intent on getting a .40 cal gun and still have reservations about learning to deal with the recoil you do have another option. Yes, it is easier to learn with a 9mm, especially with light loads and move up to hot loads than with a .40. I will not say it is impossible because I do not know you, I have never met you, I have never seen you shoot.

This is why it is best to try before you buy. You are the one that will be using the gun. Not any of us keyboard warriors.

Just something to think about, when my son turned 18, a transferred my G19 to him. I never really considered what he might like. I like my Glocks for many reasons. He would shoot it but never really liked it. For his graduation present I told him I would buy him any gun he wanted. When He moved out of state I did just that, he wanted a Jericho 941, the all steel version. He shoots that one so much better than the Glock he says he might send the Glock back to me. I told him if he does, I will buy him another gun to replace it.

So, to get back to another option, you can put a G19 slide on a G23, or a G17 slide on a G22.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/g17-slide-on-a-g22-frame.1124046/

The frames are the same. You would just need to put the .40 cal ejector into the 9 mm slide which is easy to do. There are many YouTube videos on that. Ejectors are cheap IIRC so you could just buy one to keep installed and you could just change the slide and shoot different ammo.

With the proliferation of 80% lowers for Glocks, many places sell slides. Many people also sell their slides because they buy gucci'ed up slides for their Glocks so you might find one for a reasonable price.

I prefer plain black because because any of mine are meant to be used for SD or HD so I do not want to buy the useless add-ons that I will be upset over if one is taken for evidence. I won't cry to hard to just go out and replace it. I have other range toys that are just for fun.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I have not seen so much BS in one thread for some time.

To convert a G22 to 9MM all you do is change the barrel to a "Conversion Barrel". A stock 9MM barrel won't work because they are too small on the Outside Dia. and flop around in the slide.

The .40S&W mags work just fine.

It doesn't work the other way because a Stock 9MM barrel is smaller than a .40 barrel and the .40 barrel won't fit thru the hole in the slide, and the bolt face on the 9MM slide won't swallow the .40 S&W Rim.

It is as simple as that until you get thinking too deep with not enough correct information to work with.

Randy

[Hunt]

40 is a dead caliber.

Always get the full size model for general shooting.

Get training so you stop saying how guns "fit your hand". You don't know how a gun is supposed to fit.

nah, 40 is the way to go, you can get 3 calibers in one gun, I run 9-357 and 40 in my G22 and G33, love it

[23 Blast]

Yes. Get a G22, then get a 9mm conversion barrel. Thats what I have (Gen 3 G22, with a Lone Wolf 40-9 conversion barrel) It is effectively having two guns in one.

There is no difference between the frames of a G17 and G22. What is different is the angle of the ejector (straight for the .40, slightly bent inward on the 9mm). However, when I shoot 9mm through the gun via that conversion barrel, the ejector works perfectly.

The only thing besides the barrel you'd need is 9mm magazines. Personally I haven't tried putting 9mm rounds in my .40 mags, but if those 9mm mags are that difficult to come by, the .40 mags may just work, too.

[tomrkba]

Go 9mm and be happy with the 17, 19, 26 and 34.

I used to shoot a 23 but gave it up for a stack of 19’s.

[fmunk]

The gun isn't the problem. It's your skill set. Different gun, different calibers and different length barrels... all require slight adjustment by the shooter. But, the fundamentals are the same.

Pick whatever gun is most comfortable in your hands. Then, train. Train. Train. Train. Practice makes perfect. If recoil of .40sw is intimidating/challenging to you, maybe that's a clue to look into 9mm. In most uses, there is nothing 40sw can do that 9mm can't. Now, if you're looking at a 40sw Glock so you have flexibility in consuming that, 9mm and .357sig, then there is merit in that approach.

"40sw is dead"?? If I got a dollar for every time someone has said that in the past 10 years alone. Fake news from self-appointed armchair generals.

[fmunk]

Why would I want to do that? I don't know anyone who does that.

Sounds like you don't have a lot of friends. Are you lonely? Poor you. Maybe rethink the way you approach people.

[Mr. Blue]

G19 or G17. I thought this was well known.

[AFTII]

Sounds like you don't have a lot of friends. Are you lonely? Poor you. Maybe rethink the way you approach people.

Don't be too hard on him. He was stillborn.

[fmunk]

Don't be too hard on him. He was stillborn.

So he's a full functioning zombie? That's pretty impressive. I was thinking maybe dropped on the kitchen floor at birth.

[AFTII]

OP, if I were a new shooter trying to learn the fundamentals of shooting, I'd get a 22. Not a G22, but a .22 LR.

It may sound crazy and "unmanly," but its a lot easier to learn the mechanics of shooting without the recoil and noise of a bigger caliber messing with your subconscious.

[fmunk]

OP, if I were a new shooter trying to learn the fundamentals of shooting, I'd get a 22. Not a G22, but a .22 LR.

It may sound crazy and "unmanly," but its a lot easier to learn the mechanics of shooting without the recoil and noise of a bigger caliber messing with your subconscious.

Just my opinion... this is out-dated old-school thought. 22LR, basically a staple gun, isn't going to teach him much about flinch reflex (unless he is a child). If the recommendation is based on extending trigger time because of lower ammo cost... then there is merit. Otherwise, go straight to 9mm and get instruction. Once armed with knowledge of fundamental skills, there is a wide array of 9mm ammunition—from mild to wild—to hone his skills on.

[AFTII]

So he's a full functioning zombie? That's pretty impressive. I was thinking maybe dropped on the kitchen floor at birth.

"Elvis's identical twin brother, Jesse Garon Presley, was delivered 35 minutes before him, stillborn." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley

[AFTII]

Recoil is not the problem. It's the noise. A 9mm produces somewhere around 160 dbs. A .22LR produces around 140 dbs. One shot without ear pro from either can cause damage without hearing protection. However, damage does not ONLY occur over 140 db. Repeated exposure to noise also causes damage and those extra 20 dbs of noise of repeated exposure from a 9mm do more damage than a .22 even when hearing protection is used. That damage subconsciously causes the "flinch." I think you'd agree that it's much easier to convince your brain that a handgun is not going to hurt you using a .22, rather than a 9, 40, 45, 10mm or a 500. In fact, I always decompress after a session with the 500 with a couple of mags of .22. Finally, in this case, the OP already has a flinch (from his previous post). He needs to get rid of that before he can move on. And yes, he could save some $$ in the process as well.

I'm not going to advocate the .22 for SD. However, there are plenty of folks who met their makers courtesy of a .22 "staple gun." One of my college friends lost his brother to a .22 LR. My friend's brother and an acquaintance were out shooting .22s when the acquaintance pressed the barrel of his .22 to my friend's brother's bicep and pulled the trigger. (Stupid 16 YO kid.) The bullet travelled through the arm, into the chest cavity, struck his heart and killed him instantly. (FWIW, another friend of mine who was a LEO made a similar shot with a .45 Gold Dot hollow point from a G21 and that bullet didn't penetrate enough to hit the heart. The BG lived. So, don't knock the .22 too hard. It has value as a training tool and it will kill.)