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  • JWil
    Member
    • Nov 2020
    • 335

    Looking to buy first handgun - tokarevs illegal in CA?

    So when I was around 14 I knew a family friend who had a tokarev, and remember it being pretty fun to shoot. Now, wanting to buy my first handgun, I went out and found some options. Unfortunately, it seems like they can't be ordered and shipped to an FFL? Any in - state options or should I just get a different pistol?
  • #2
    wamphyri13
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 2749

    Shop consignments and PPT are your only options. Depending on where you are, City Arms in Pacifica usually has one or two Tokarevs and Makarovs in their consignment case. Owners are Russian, so maybe that's why.
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    • #3
      BaronW
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 988

      C&R handguns are exempt from the roster, so you can order one online (e.g., https://www.classicfirearms.com/roma...okarev-pistol/ ) and get it shipped to a local FFL for transfer.
      I am not a lawyer, the above does not constitute legal advice.

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      • #4
        Milsurp Collector
        Calguns Addict
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2009
        • 5884

        Tokarevs are very interesting and cool, I have 6 of them, but finding ammo even after the current shortage is over won't be easy. For your first handgun I recommend something that uses more common ammo.
        Revolvers are not pistols

        pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
        Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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        • #5
          Garv
          RSG Minion, Senior
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Apr 2014
          • 8987

          Make sure your FFL understands the process and will release on "Undetermined".

          Make sure you know what the FFL will charge, the price can vary by a lot.

          You can also post a Want To Buy (WTB) ad here, but be careful of scammers.
          I suggest removing your personal email from being visible, that is where you will get a number of PMs telling you to call their friend, they have what you want or similar.
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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30241

            Originally posted by JWil
            Looking to buy first handgun - tokarevs illegal in CA?

            So when I was around 14 I knew a family friend who had a tokarev, and remember it being pretty fun to shoot. Now, wanting to buy my first handgun, I went out and found some options. Unfortunately, it seems like they can't be ordered and shipped to an FFL? Any in - state options or should I just get a different pistol?
            Tokarev pistols are CA legal, but they are considered off-Roster.

            Unless an exemption is utilized, a CA FFL dealer can only transfer handguns that are listed on the CA Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.

            C&R handguns are exempt from this.

            Most Tokarev pistols are C&R, but some are not C&R.

            Therefore, before you order one online, make sure that it is a C&R Tokarev pistol.
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            • #7
              naz
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2020
              • 3104

              OP. How about applying for FFL03 and Ca coe while you search

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              • #8
                SkyHawk
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2012
                • 23456

                I imported all of these Tokarevs into CA - they are all C&R and so they are legal to import.

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                • #9
                  TomReloaded
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 1637

                  Tokarevs are good 5th guns. Definitely not a great first.

                  Get something new and reliable for a first handgun. Tokarevs are awesome, but that's a range toy or a collector item.

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                  • #10
                    bruss01
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 5336

                    I agree, the Yugo M57 is a decent pistol, C& R and thus CA legal.

                    I own one and enjoy shooting it. The 7.62 TOK is a decent small caliber high velocity round.

                    That said, there's better bang/buck options out there. It has marginal sights and 8 round capacity. Sights are so bad I had a gunsmith mill dots into mine so I could see them.

                    You won't go wrong with a Springfield XD or CZ, if you can find one. If the M57 is all you can score, don't despair- they are good guns and 7.62 tok is a good round. I keep one for defense in certain specific situations which I won't go into here.
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                    • #11
                      JWil
                      Member
                      • Nov 2020
                      • 335

                      Originally posted by BaronW
                      C&R handguns are exempt from the roster, so you can order one online (e.g., https://www.classicfirearms.com/roma...okarev-pistol/ ) and get it shipped to a local FFL for transfer.
                      That's actually the site I tried originally, but when I put it in my cart and went through the checkout process I got this message "Your cart contains hand guns that can't be shipped to you due to a C&R restriction in your state. If you feel that you have gotten this message in error, please call 704-774-1102 or email us at sales@classicfirearms.com.", and googling "CA C&R restriction" I got "In California, buyers may not purchase a curio or relic online, inside the state or across state lines that can be concealed, such as a pistol, unless purchased from a class-one licensed FFL dealer". So it seems like even with a C&R license I couldn't have it shipped to me, but I'm new to all this.

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                      • #12
                        JWil
                        Member
                        • Nov 2020
                        • 335

                        Originally posted by bruss01
                        I agree, the Yugo M57 is a decent pistol, C& R and thus CA legal.

                        I own one and enjoy shooting it. The 7.62 TOK is a decent small caliber high velocity round.

                        That said, there's better bang/buck options out there. It has marginal sights and 8 round capacity. Sights are so bad I had a gunsmith mill dots into mine so I could see them.

                        You won't go wrong with a Springfield XD or CZ, if you can find one. If the M57 is all you can score, don't despair- they are good guns and 7.62 tok is a good round. I keep one for defense in certain specific situations which I won't go into here.
                        What's a decent shooting semi - auto hand gun within the same sort of 200 - 300 USD price range?

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                        • #13
                          JWil
                          Member
                          • Nov 2020
                          • 335

                          Originally posted by naz
                          OP. How about applying for FFL03 and Ca coe while you search
                          I've got the paperwork and have it filled out, I just have to submit it and have it go to my local CLEO and what not.

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                          • #14
                            JWil
                            Member
                            • Nov 2020
                            • 335

                            Originally posted by Quiet
                            Tokarev pistols are CA legal, but they are considered off-Roster.

                            Unless an exemption is utilized, a CA FFL dealer can only transfer handguns that are listed on the CA Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.

                            C&R handguns are exempt from this.

                            Most Tokarev pistols are C&R, but some are not C&R.

                            Therefore, before you order one online, make sure that it is a C&R Tokarev pistol.
                            How would I go about achieving this this exemption?

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                            • #15
                              JWil
                              Member
                              • Nov 2020
                              • 335

                              Originally posted by Garv
                              Make sure your FFL understands the process and will release on "Undetermined".

                              Make sure you know what the FFL will charge, the price can vary by a lot.

                              You can also post a Want To Buy (WTB) ad here, but be careful of scammers.
                              I suggest removing your personal email from being visible, that is where you will get a number of PMs telling you to call their friend, they have what you want or similar.
                              Go to "User CP", "your profile", "profile privacy", friends only.
                              I'm no stranger to buy/sell forums, but I am a stranger to buying/selling guns. It seems like the bigger issue I'm having is just getting through the stinking check out system lol.

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