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  • #46
    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44093

    Your ignorance is showing. Please educate yourself on the subject prior to commenting again. Otherwise, you make educated and responsible gun owners look bad.

    BTW, I suggest getting your 4 year old boy a pink Rascal for self defense. He won't want to be seen with a pink gun so, he won't use it unless he has to. That was a very basic question. Do you have any harder questions?
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    • #47
      Pupulepeter
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 783

      Kinda out of left field, but they could pretty much get anything converted to single action, since neither will ever fire a round in double action. That being said, the colt cobras have a much lighter pull.

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      • #48
        Che762x39
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 4538



        Best choice for both ladies.

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        • #49
          Rcjackrabbit
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 971

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          Your ignorance is showing. Please educate yourself on the subject prior to commenting again. Otherwise, you make educated and responsible gun owners look bad.
          You are hilarious if you think giving a 70+ year old frail stroke victim a gun turns her into a fighter. It is a false sense of security at best.

          I see guys like you at the range all the time. You are typically so fat, you can't see your toes. You have man boobs, and look pregnant (like most in the picture with YSR racer). You have a gun, so you think you are a fighter. You haven't done a situp in over a decade and would get winded running around the block.

          But, your gun will save you.

          Hilarious.
          Last edited by Rcjackrabbit; 11-02-2020, 7:44 AM.

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          • #50
            FeuerFrei
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2008
            • 7455

            Anyone notice the OP hasn't checked in since he posted?

            Maybe he checked the thread and saw the garbage fire it's become and decided to just let it burn.

            I hope the ladies find their answers.

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            • #51
              ysr_racer
              Banned
              • Mar 2006
              • 12014

              Go big or go home, grandma !!

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              • #52
                Lead Waster
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2010
                • 16650

                Thinking outside the box, a Glock with a slide racker
                (as an example)
                CARVER Slideracker for Glock rear sight dovetail provides thumbrest for improved grip control. Fits left or right side with easy tap installation and set screw adjustment.


                Might actually be easy for them to use. I found that "can't rack the side" usually has to do with either technique OR lack of GRIP strength to hold onto the silde... not actually the strength to pull it back. If you can pull on a pair of shoes, you can rack a Glock, but being able to grip the slide is the real issue for people with limited dexterity.
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                • #53
                  Lead Waster
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 16650

                  Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
                  You are hilarious if you think giving a 70+ year old frail stroke victim a gun turns her into a fighter. It is a false sense of security at best.

                  I see guys like you at the range all the time. You are typically so fat, you can't see your toes. You have man boobs, and look pregnant (like most in the picture with YSR racer). You have a gun, so you think you are a fighter. You haven't done a situp in over a decade and would get winded running around the block.

                  But, your gun will save you.

                  Hilarious.
                  Well, I mean, that's why they call just "equalizers". If you're a 25 year old MMA fighter, you don't need a gun. If you're a 70 year old lady, a stroke survivor or a big fat range-going lazy *** ... a gun is EXACTLY what you would need.

                  Now, if you're a 70 year old lady, a stroke survivor or a man-boober ... are you going to be able to defend yourself better WITH a gun or WITHOUT a gun?
                  If someone is going to rape that 20 year old girl who had a stroke, having a gun is what will save her... not NOT having a gun.
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                  Remember to dial 1 before 911.

                  Forget about stopping power. If you can't hit it, you can't stop it.

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                  • #54
                    Lead Waster
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 16650

                    Another though is pepper spray and tasers. Pepper spray requires little strength and I've never actually used a taser, but they look like you get one shot with a cartridge then replace the cartridge. There is no racking of anything. But now that I've said it out loud, I think a can or two of pepper spray would be a good bet. Doesn't require accuracy if you get the clouding kind versus a stream, usually works, doesn't require great strength or training.
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                    Forget about stopping power. If you can't hit it, you can't stop it.

                    There. Are. Four. Lights!

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                    • #55
                      k1dude
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2009
                      • 15061

                      With old and frail people that are too weak to pull a revolver trigger and can't rack a .380 slide, I always recommend something like the Kel-Tec PMR 30. Old people always aim better with the light recoiling 22.

                      The PMR 30 is super lightweight, super easy to rack, and has a very light trigger. The best thing is they'll never have to worry about manipulating the slide or changing a mag since it holds 31 rounds. And no one is going to volunteer to stand in front of 31 rounds of .22 mag. But the PMR 30 does have a manual safety to remember.

                      I know we live in Kalifornia and the roster and 10 rounders get in the way of the PMR 30. But there are other roster approved 22 pistols that would work.

                      A more expensive option would be to buy a Glock 19 and put an Advantage Arms .22 upper on it. But that's pricey. However, it's light and easy to rack and has no manual safety to worry about manipulating.

                      I would also consider the Walther P22. It's great for small frail hands and weighs nothing. The slide is super easy to rack. The lever mag release is also easier for most old people to manipulate than a button. The only drawback might be remembering and manipulating the safety lever. Some people have problematic P22's. But most don't.

                      Another great option is the Browning 1911-22 A1 Compact. It's small, light, and racks easy. It costs more than the P22 though, but like the P22, it has a manual safety to remember.

                      A GSG-1911 or Browning Buck Mark Lite would be options if they can handle double the weight and a manual safety.

                      Too bad we can't get the Glock 44 or Taurus TX22. Those both have 17 rounds of 22 on tap in a light package that are easy to rack and have good triggers with no manual safety to worry about.
                      Last edited by k1dude; 11-03-2020, 11:36 AM.
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                      • #56
                        TMB 1
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 7153

                        Yep 22, see if you can find them a couple Ruger MkIIs and have them keep their 38s for up close can't miss.
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                        • #57
                          TMB 1
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7153

                          Might want to recommend they get a shotgun too, even if it is just a 410 loaded with buckshot or slugs.
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                          • #58
                            Rcjackrabbit
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 971

                            Don't kid yourself about fitness.

                            A fit body handles deadly stress better than a fat out of shape body. Fighting for your life is stressful.

                            Someone who is fit can move. Movement and agility can mean the difference between life and death. Standing in one place can get you dead.

                            Fitness implies mental discipline and a strong mind. A person with a strong mind will have the mindset to drop the hammer at the right time.

                            Fat and out of shape is weak and lazy. You are a fool if you don't think that will carry into a life and death encounter.

                            You fight with your mind. Having man boobs and looking 3 months pregnant is external evidence of a weak mind.

                            P.S. A 70 year old female frail stroke victim is not mentally capable of turning cold blooded killer because you hand her a gun.
                            Last edited by Rcjackrabbit; 11-02-2020, 12:12 PM.

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                            • #59
                              RedFord150
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 5665

                              A 70 year old frail stroke victim is capable of saving her own life if put in that position. Guns equal the playing field for those of us not training for death matches. A previous poster cited several examples of successful armed self defense by some very elderly people. These events are listed in the NRA magazine American Rifleman every single month. All are documented well enough for independent verification. Bottom line is that even a tough stud like RCJackrabbit can be taken out by Grandma with an old .22
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                              • #60
                                TMB 1
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 7153

                                Originally posted by Rcjackrabbit
                                Don't kid yourself about fitness.

                                A fit body handles deadly stress better than a fat out of shape body. Fighting for your life is stressful.

                                Someone who is fit can move. Movement and agility can mean the difference between life and death. Standing in one place can get you dead.

                                Fitness implies mental discipline and a strong mind. A person with a strong mind will have the mindset to drop the hammer at the right time.

                                Fat and out of shape is weak and lazy. You are a fool if you don't think that will carry into a life and death encounter.

                                You fight with your mind. Having man boobs and looking 3 months pregnant is external evidence of a weak mind.

                                P.S. A 70 year old female frail stroke victim is not mentally capable of turning cold blooded killer because you hand her a gun.

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