Self made 1911

[Hog Hunter]

Hi all,

I recently applied for a serial number for 1911 that I would like to build.

Today I get a notice that it will need a micro stamp mechanism and a chamber flag?"

Is this correct?

Has anyone recently built a 1911 or know if that is correct?

Thanks for your replies,

HH

[godofgamblers]

I am curious to see what happens if you say you have a microstamping mechanism. Do they want to see proof of that?

[edgerly779]

Not surprising since you cannot mfg unsafe handgun in Ca.

[Hog Hunter]

[Hog Hunter]

here is the notice I got after paying the fees.

[Hog Hunter]

Not surprising you cannot mfg unsafe handgun in Ca.

I cant see how a highly common 1911 would be unsafe.

[godofgamblers]

I cant see how a highly common 1911 would be unsafe.

That's because you're using common sense. But this is the CA DOJ we're talking about. It's bizarro world.

Sorry that you had to pay your fees first. But yeah, they're not going to issue you a serial number unless you meet those requirements. Which is why I snarkly asked what would happen if you say "sure I got a microstamping device...."

You may want to try again but go the bolt-action 1911 path.

[edgerly779]

^^ Where have you been for last couple years?

[SkyHawk]

I cant see how a highly common 1911 would be unsafe.

This is California. Do not try to apply logic to our gun laws. All you need to know is they do not want you to have guns. If you look at every law through that lens, it will make sense.

You CANNOT make a semi auto handgun in CA. Unless you are going to make a dimensionally compliant bolt action 1911, your application will not be approved.

[Hog Hunter]

Punishing the best people in your community for a criminals actions that will not follow the laws is highly unjust.

I still dont get the whole permits and fees for rights. Someone tried to compare it to a lawyer needing a license. Except a lawyer is not exercising his rights, he is a professional and has a license to show that he knows wtf he is doing so that he can represent people in the court of law..

Tyranny and Ca go hand in hand.

[DDM4556]

Punishing the best people in your community for a criminals actions that will not follow the laws is highly unjust.

I still dont get the whole permits and fees for rights. Someone tried to compare it to a lawyer needing a license. Except a lawyer is not exercising his rights, he is a professional and has a license to show that he knows wtf he is doing so that he can represent people in the court of law..

Tyranny and Ca go hand in hand.

Get used to it. You're in CA, leftist paradise. There is no logic here. Criminals's rights are valued more than yours. We've been dealing with these things for years.

Please make sure you vote right and donate to the proper organizations. We need to protect the few rights we have left.

[plumbum]

You have the ability and skill to manufacture a 1911 pistol but have zero knowledge about gun laws in CA?

I’d suggest reading up.

[Hog Hunter]

Look up 32105 and 29180, they are contradictory to 32000.

According to them If I do not intend to sell it then 32000 does not apply.

But the DOJ send me this and made it confusing.

I was looking for someone who would possibly mention 29180, but sadly no one has, but you chose to personally attack me. Shameful.

[IVC]

I was looking for someone who would possibly mention 29180, but sadly no one has, ...

That's how government works - they decide, they make regulation, they make the rules and if you don't like what they are doing the only option is to go to court. You don't "reason" or "argue" with them, they have made up their mind.

It's similar to the AW *regulation*, where they invented a mechanism to try to prevent people from tinkering with bullet buttons. Is it in the law? Of course not. They put it into the "regulations" and that's how they will enforce it until/unless a court tells them they are wrong.

So, whether they are right or wrong doesn't matter. What matters is what you can do hassle-free and whether you're going to put a lot of time, money and risk of personal freedom to try to prove them wrong.

Sucks, but that's government for you...

[AlHO1966]

I have to ask did you not do any of this research before beginning the building process? The micro stamping restriction has been around for a long time.