Glock Talk: Which one and does it convert...

[TheCilician]

Yo,

I'm a 1911, CZ75 kinda guy....but i'm starting to see why everyone loves the Glock....it's a great pistol...

so here's what I want, suggestions greatly appreciated!

I've been reading that .40 is a good cal. for the Glock, but what do you guys think of 9mm?

Also, very importante, which Glocks have good/best .22 conversion kits?

Thanks very much.

[Gio]

Glock 22 is the one you want. You can get a Lone Wolf .40 to 9mm conversion barrel, not sure which mags you use whether the 17 or 19. Also Advantage Arms makes a .22 conversion as well for the Glock 22. That might not be all that correct, but at least it is something for now

-Gio

[Greg-Dawg]

It all depends on ammo and .22lr conversion model kit availability.

All 9mm and .40S&W Glocks are awesome. Hard to choose when a gun is so reliable.

[Bryan16]

The 22 is pretty large pistol (duty size). I'd get the 23 as a nice middle ground between a full duty size and a sub compact if you wanted a .40. I tend to prefer 9mm though as it is cheaper to shoot, has less recoil, and is still a very good defensive round. Although I'm sort of a hater against the .40 because I am a 10mm believer lol

You probably can't go wrong with either though! I chose the Glock 19 because of the capacity/size. Something about having 16 rounds in such a concealable size that makes me smile!

[TheCilician]

How's camming action on it...recoil? (glock 19)

[jimrod]

Depends on your use. For defensive purposes, go with the G22 in .40 S&W. For accuracy and general range use, go with th G17 in 9 mm - it's inherently more accurate and less costly to shoot. The .40 S&W is well documented by many firearms experts and writers to not be an inherently accurate cartridge, but it's good enough for gov't work. I'm sure i'm going to hear it from the .40 fanatics.

I know it's not on your list, but the Glock 21 in .45 ACP is well known to be the most accurate of the Glocks (outside of the long slide Glocks). The Glock .45 ACP barrels are purportedly manufactured on different machines than all the other calibers according to several publications. The .45 ACP is also better for defensive purposes. Something to consider.

[TheCilician]

Hmm, We have a .40 in the house already, the Glock 17 9mm is looking good to add some variety...I'll look into it.

BUT, does the Glock 17 9mm, have a good conversion to the .22?

[Gio]

Should be able to get an Advantage Arms kit for it.

Advantage Arms 22lr L.E. unit conversion for Glock models 17,22,24,31,34,35 includes one magazine & cleaning kit. $247.95

-Gio

[TheCilician]

Should be able to get an Advantage Arms kit for it.

Advantage Arms 22lr L.E. unit conversion for Glock models 17,22,24,31,34,35 includes one magazine & cleaning kit. $247.95

-Gio

Ah these are sweet. Thanks.

[walter]

unfortunately those kits are on major backorder. they are selling on gunbroker for 400+. I actually have a 19/23 kit on GB and its at 380 with 1 day left.

I say the best glock is the original 9mm glock 17 and 19. I think 19 is all around best. 9mm is my favorite caliber because its relatively cheap but its not a 22. .40 is too snappy for me. I rather go with 45acp if I could afford to

[Gryff]

I've been reading that .40 is a good cal. for the Glock, but what do you guys think of 9mm?

The Glock 17 was their first model, and 9mm is a perfectly acceptable compromise between something less-expensive to shoot at the range, but offers decent stopping power with today's high-end defensive ammo.

Also, very importante, which Glocks have good/best .22 conversion kits?

Advantage Arms

Glock 22 is the one you want. You can get a Lone Wolf .40 to 9mm conversion barrel, not sure which mags you use whether the 17 or 19.

If you want it to work reliably, you have to switch out the barrel, mags, and extractor. Not sure about the recoil spring/guide rod assembly, though.

How's camming action on it...recoil? (glock 19)

Glocks may have a horrible grip angle and shape, but they have a low bore axis, so they don't rock in your hands too much during recoil.

[nikki#2]

I went with a Glock 34 Tactical/Practical for USPSA/IDPA. The G17 AA Conversion Kit fits the G34/G35 as well. It is widely considered the best Kit for the Glock
(however, I wish Marvel Precision made a Glock Kit as accurate as the 1911 Unit 1). Several shooters have told me that the CZ Kadet Conversion Kit is more accurate
than the AA. I will confirm the difficulty in finding the AA Kit. I've searched everywhere, including auction sites, where they usually sell overnight at the BIN price...

I debated till the very end on a G35 .40 w/ a 9mm Conversion Barrel... My Club would allow me to shoot it in Production Division (official USPSA rules state otherwise),
and I figured it would cover ALL the bases... .40, 9MM, and 22LR.

However, it's easy to find posts reporting reliability problems with both the AA 22LR Kit and the 9mm Conversion barrels. Being a (closet) revolver-man at heart,
I have ZERO tolerance for problems of any kind, so I followed what I feel is solid advice [Glock = 9MM].

Edit: I'm definitely in the minority, but no matter how much I WANT it to, the G19 does not fit my hand comfortably, like the G17/G34. I'm 6', 200lbs, but my fingers are apparently 'chubby' and I wear a Cadet-sized golf glove. Unfortunately, the G19 is a NO-GO for me. Hopefully, you will find otherwise for yourself.

[TheCilician]

The Glock 17 was their first model, and 9mm is a perfectly acceptable compromise between something less-expensive to shoot at the range, but offers decent stopping power with today's high-end defensive ammo.



Advantage Arms



If you want it to work reliably, you have to switch out the barrel, mags, and extractor. Not sure about the recoil spring/guide rod assembly, though.



Glocks may have a horrible grip angle and shape, but they have a low bore axis, so they don't rock in your hands too much during recoil.

Very Good information man, thank you. Glock is starting to look like a very good buy.

[punisheryayarea]

I just paid $685 and got the new glock 22 rtf and all I can say is Wow!!!! With the .40 you can change it to the 10mm for hunting if you want, I'm a .45 fan but when I held this new one the .45 has a run for there money.....( 4th gen is great.....)

[kcbrown]

Glocks may have a horrible grip angle and shape, but they have a low bore axis, so they don't rock in your hands too much during recoil.

The grip angle on the Glock is the way it is for a reason: it allows you to (relatively) accurately point the weapon without using the sights. It's designed to point in the same direction that your index finger would if you simply pointed at something.

The 1911 grip angle (which most pistols use) is designed to line up the sights when your hand is up at eye level, in such a way that you don't have to rotate your wrist.

So: the Glock is designed to naturally point when simply held, while the 1911 is designed to naturally point when using the sights.

My personal opinion (which is literally worth nothing since I have no law enforcement or combat experience) is that the Glock is probably a slightly better tradeoff: if you're making the effort to use the sights at eye level, it's probably relatively little effort to angle the wrist a little in order to line up the sights, since you're making the effort to line up the sights anyway. On the other hand, the 1911 style grip might be slightly better for followup shots. If I had to choose which gun to shoot without the benefit of lining up the sights, though, I'd choose the Glock.

I'm hoping others with combat or LE experience will chime in with their experiences and opinions on this...