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  • Northern Lights
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 137

    Threaded barrel, PPK/S .22

    Hey guys, I've got a question about the legality of bringing a pistol with a threaded barrel to California. I'm currently living out of state and will be moving back to the east bay in 3-4 months. All of the guns I'm bringing back will be California compliant at the time of return, featureless ARs etc.. Anyways, I recently bought Walther PPK/S .22 and when I was cleaning it I realized it has a threaded barrel, similar to the Walther P22. My question is: can I use locktight/epoxy on the thread protector and call it a permanent attachment, essentially making the barrel not threaded any more... at least is the eyes of CA DOJ.
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    oddjob
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2003
    • 2399

    I think you may have screw on the protector, drill and tap it (from the side), and spot weld the tapped area.

    Can you buy another barrel for it? How else could you field strip it?

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    • #3
      colossians323
      Crusader for the truth!
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 21637

      Originally posted by Northern Lights
      Hey guys, I've got a question about the legality of bringing a pistol with a threaded barrel to California. I'm currently living out of state and will be moving back to the east bay in 3-4 months. All of the guns I'm bringing back will be California compliant at the time of return, featureless ARs etc.. Anyways, I recently bought Walther PPK/S .22 and when I was cleaning it I realized it has a threaded barrel, similar to the Walther P22. My question is: can I use locktight/epoxy on the thread protector and call it a permanent attachment, essentially making the barrel not threaded any more... at least is the eyes of CA DOJ.
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      Buy a new barrel, you want to put a suppressor on that in a free state
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      • #4
        morrcarr67
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 15039

        Originally posted by Northern Lights
        Hey guys, I've got a question about the legality of bringing a pistol with a threaded barrel to California. I'm currently living out of state and will be moving back to the east bay in 3-4 months. All of the guns I'm bringing back will be California compliant at the time of return, featureless ARs etc.. Anyways, I recently bought Walther PPK/S .22 and when I was cleaning it I realized it has a threaded barrel, similar to the Walther P22. My question is: can I use locktight/epoxy on the thread protector and call it a permanent attachment, essentially making the barrel not threaded any more... at least is the eyes of CA DOJ.
        Walther/Smith and Wesson used lock tite to "fix" their threaded barrel issues. Can you do the same?

        Your best option would be to buy a new barrel if you can find. You can own and keep a threaded pistol barrel in CA. You just can't have it installed in your pistol.
        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

        Originally posted by Erion929

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Originally posted by morrcarr67
          Walther/Smith and Wesson used lock tite to "fix" their threaded barrel issues. Can you do the same?

          Your best option would be to buy a new barrel if you can find. You can own and keep a threaded pistol barrel in CA. You just can't have it installed in your pistol.
          In regards to the Walther P22, what was allowed was an emergency fix that was approved due to CA DOJ error of not being aware the pistol had a threaded barrel in the first place. So far, Walther is the only manufacturer that was allowed to perform a quick fix of epoxing (red loctite) on a smooth thread protector/cap.

          If a CA LE forensic/gun unit can remove the muzzle device, then it will be treated as a threaded barrel.

          CA regulations...

          California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 39 Article 1 Section 5460
          The definitions of terms in section 5471 of this chapter shall apply to the identification of assault weapons pursuant to Penal Code section 30515.

          California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 39 Article 2 Section 5471
          (d) “Barrel length” means the length of the barrel measured as follows: Without consideration of any extensions or protrusions rearward of the closed bolt or breech-face the approved procedure for measuring barrel length is to measure from the closed bolt (or breech-face) to the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device. Permanent methods of attachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100o F) silver soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over. Barrels are measured by inserting a dowel rod into the barrel until the rod stops against the closed bolt or breech-face. The rod is then marked at the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device, withdrawn from the barrel, and measured.
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