build 2011 from frame kit

[ar15barrels]

How to verify if it was DROSed as "handgun, pistol, semi-auto, receiver/frame" or "handgun, pistol, receiver/frame"?

It will be stated on the DROS form.

[tanks]

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If the factory (07-FFL created) virgin receiver/frame is DROS'd as a "handgun, pistol, semi-auto" or "handgun, pistol, semi-auto, receiver/frame"; then it can be used to make a semi-auto pistol that does not violate CA assault weapons laws and CA prohibited weapons laws.

I didn't even know this was possible. To be specific, can someone buy a frame from STI and DROS it for a build by a gunsmith?

[Snoopy47]

I didn't even know this was possible. To be specific, can someone buy a frame from STI and DROS it for a build by a gunsmith?

Could someone have bought it out of state, moved to CA, and then simply did the $19 self registration as an STI (or whatever it is) serial number and just called it a complete semi auto?

[tanks]

My specific question is without bringing it from out of state when they moved to CA, but a CA resident having the frame shipped to an FFL here for DROS.

[psun786]

My gut feeling is if the frame kit is from STI, Pheonix Trinity, CK arms, etc... then it's not built from SSE. And most likely it's "handgun, pistol, semi-auto, receiver/frame".
On ther other hand, if the frame is built from SSE, then most likely it's "handgun, pistol, receiver/frame".
Please bear with me. My thought is not meticulous. I will veriy it, anyway.

You are correct. If the frame has STI, PT, CK branding on them, they are likely brought in from out of state as off roster semi auto since none of those manufacture build SSE kit for CA. Frame build based SSE must have the company that did SSE stamped on the frame.

[Mute]

My specific question is without bringing it from out of state when they moved to CA, but a CA resident having the frame shipped to an FFL here for DROS.

Unless you're exempt from the roster, no.

[eric1911]

It will be stated on the DROS form.

What if the seller doesn't have the original DROS form?
Can the FFL, with which I am going to do DROS to obtain this Frame, determine if "semi-auto" key word will be included or not?

[dummykid]

well, just give a call to Limcat, and he could answer you all the questions

[ar15barrels]

can someone buy a frame from STI and DROS it for a build by a gunsmith?

No problem if they are roster exempt.

[ar15barrels]

What if the seller doesn't have the original DROS form?
Can the FFL, with which I am going to do DROS to obtain this Frame, determine if "semi-auto" key word will be included or not?

I don't think so.
I bet the DOJ can though.
It would be interesting (and maybe expensive for you) to find out if you try to PPT it as a semi-auto when it was last DROSed as a single shot and DOJ catches the change and blocks the transfer.
I don't know if that's even a thing they are setup to look for though.

Are you roster exempt or are you doing this as a PPT to get around the roster?

[eric1911]

I don't think so.
I bet the DOJ can though.
It would be interesting (and maybe expensive for you) to find out if you try to PPT it as a semi-auto when it was last DROSed as a single shot and DOJ catches the change and blocks the transfer.
I don't know if that's even a thing they are setup to look for though.

Are you roster exempt or are you doing this as a PPT to get around the roster?

No, I just want to avoid single shot frame.

[ar15barrels]

No, I just want to avoid single shot frame.

Then only buy a frame where the seller can show you the prior DROS that lists the frame as a semi auto.
With no prior DROS form, you could be getting a single-shot frame.
A seller can go back to the dealer he DROSed the frame at and request a copy of his old DROS.

[mmlook]

Then only buy a frame where the seller can show you the prior DROS that lists the frame as a semi auto.
With no prior DROS form, you could be getting a single-shot frame.
A seller can go back to the dealer he DROSed the frame at and request a copy of his old DROS.

or just buy an SVI, as they are on roster.

price & wait time is a little more

but at least you dont have to jump through all the hoops.

[ar15barrels]

or just buy an SVI, as they are on roster.

price & wait time is a little more

but at least you dont have to jump through all the hoops.

You mean like the hoops of having to rebuild the whole gun because you don't want a 45acp?

[tanks]

You mean like the hoops of having to rebuild the whole gun because you don't want a 45acp?

No. SVI ships you a .45 ACP. You DROS it and then you ship it back to them. They ship you a "customized" gun in the caliber of your choice 30 days later.
Here are before and after pics:

Before, a .45 ACP


After, a .40 S&W 5.4" sight tracker.