Just a heads up.

[Dirtlaw]

You don't need to add ammo to the DROS. The DROS is the same background check as is done for the ammo. If you clear DROS, you've cleared for ammo purchase.

DOJ Website, 1st para; 4th bullet:

Your absolutely right. That's the same information I received from Turners.

[JR18]

Maybe I’ll buy a little bit of ammo when I go to dros my new gun to see how it works out.

[The Gleam]

I guess buying ammo when I buy a gun will be the only condition any more where I will ever buy ammo again in California.

No, I'm not going to get my C&R/COE for a bit of convenience (essentially licensing to enjoy 2nd Amendment rights whereby registration and documentation is actually still involved) and no, it has a lot more to do with a problem other than just $1.00 that I can see.

At the same time, the NRA/CRPA has filed an injunction against it this week to coincide with a lawsuit previously filed and I hope it gets legs with Benitez at the pulpit; my only reservation on that is it may be harder to fight since the inane votes of California approved it.

Good to know about the DROS for gun includes ammo though; may just save up my want lists for when I do.

[Dvrjon]

At the same time, the NRA/CRPA has filed an injunction against it this week to coincide with a lawsuit previously filed and I hope it gets legs with Benitez at the pulpit; my only reservation on that is it may be harder to fight since the inane votes of California approved it.

The instant background check wasn’t approved by the voters. It was included in SB 1235, passed by the Legislature, and amended Prop 63, overwriting it’s provision for a $50, 4-year ammo purchaser license.

[Yodaman]

[Dvrjon]

It's true, and it's now.

California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 4045.1

[The Gleam]

Absolutely it was approved by voters.

How it became a part of Prop 63 is irrelevant; the fact is that it was a part of Prop 63 by the time it made it to the ballot, ambiguous or not, which voters voted for the very premise of it, a background check; the very image of that is below. And it said, first line:

63 - Requires background check and Department of Justice authorization to purchase ammunition.



Says it point blank; and California voters voted for that.

And California gun owners did little to stop it. Not much more than 150,000 signatures in the petition drive... pathetic. If I had a signature for every time I heard a gun owner decline to sign, or say they "didn't want their name on government a list" - we would have squashed this thing (the irony being they were often at the gun store to DROS a gun and put their name on a government list).

[Yodaman]

Just a heads up.

It's true, and it's now.



California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 4045.1

Thanks Dvrjon. This clears up a question on I had on anther thread as well. Much appreciated.


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[Dvrjon]

Absolutely it was approved by voters.

How it became a part of Prop 63 is irrelevant; the fact is that it was a part of Prop 63 by the time it made it to the ballot, ambiguous or not, which voters voted for the very premise of it, a background check; the very image of that is below. And it said, first line:

63 - Requires background check and Department of Justice authorization to purchase ammunition.

Says it point blank; and California voters voted for that.

And California gun owners did little to stop it. Not much more than 150,000 signatures in the petition drive... pathetic. If I had a signature for every time I heard a gun owner decline to sign, or say they "didn't want their name on government a list" - we would have squashed this thing (the irony being they were often at the gun store to DROS a gun and put their name on a government list).

You are correct that Prop 63 carried a background check. The point I was making is that the current system was not part of Prop 63, but was manufactured by the Legislature to alter the results of the Proposition.

The voters (“Vox Populi”) approved Section 8.15, creating CA PEN 30370, which established an Ammunition Purchase Authorization card requiring a pre-issuance background check. (An onerous and much-reviled concept by which there would be created a list of approved buyers). The new CA PEN 30370 was enacted by the Legislature through SB 1235, and overrode and replaced the language enacted by the Proposition with this electronic background check. This “instant” background check wasn’t reviewed by the voters in Prop 63. (Having said that, I have no doubt gun owners would still have supported the Proposition and it would have passed.)

SB 1235 amended the results of Prop 63 to replace codes that supported what the people voted for with what Sen Leon (“Vox DeLeon”) wanted.

While the end result (background check) is the same, the one we have was never a part of Prop 63.