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  • #16
    walmart_ar15
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 2335

    Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
    I am guessing you are right about the rocking of the ejector locking it up.

    The ejector does not seem to have a cut for a pin.

    Will wait to see what the replacement pin looks like/how it fits.



    The comp gun is put together and seems to work, so I won't be taking it apart at any near date. Maybe you will see the next owner talking about problems with it, but don't think I am going to do anything but the bore brush/patch cleaning in what will be left of my ownership of this pistol.

    Thanks for all the help.
    • Insert the barrel into the slide and have it seated into lock position
      Insert reverse plug into position, make sure it is flush fit to the slide
      Now hold the slide assembly with ur support hand and insert one end of the spring into the reverse plug
      Make sure u have something to catch the recoil plug if u slip, a tower works great, using ur strong hand and insert the inside half of the recoil rod on to the spring.
      Make sure the ears of the rod is facing the barrel, put the barrel end on the counter top, and slowly compressed the spring with the rod while using ur support hands 4 fingers to guide/capture the spring from moving/bulging out.
      Once u have the rod fitted underneath the barrel lug/link, hold the spring rod assembly with the support hand fingers.
      Now thread the long section of the recoil rod from the front through the springs. Allen wrench will help if that is the tool to tighten it.
      Idea is to screw together the recoil rod while u are holding it. Once the rod are thread together, the spring will not go any where.
      Now just slide the upper to ur frame while pushing the spring assembly up against the barrel.
      Wiggle it a bit so the barrel lug will slide into the slot in the frame, line up the link pin hole to the frame and insert slide lock pin.
      All done. Cycle and check for function and tighten down the recoil rod.

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    • #17
      Rogerbutthead
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 3857

      I did field strip, clean and lube my new Armscorp Citadel M1911-A1 FS. I can see the pin hole in the guide rod in this example. Your help aided me in re-assembling it with minimal problems. I mean at one point, this slide too was refusing to go back further than the firing position, but jiggling it, turning it upside down, etc, it did eventually pull back without the use of my trusty rubber mallet.

      Thanks again.

      *I did order the Dawson drill bit - thanks

      My trusty rubber mallet - decades old - problem solver for those of us who are not mechanically inclined.
      Last edited by Rogerbutthead; 03-16-2019, 12:59 PM.

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      • #18
        Rogerbutthead
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2006
        • 3857

        I had drilled the Safari as instructed and put in a pin to hold the ejector.

        Oiled the gun and put it away but today I was cleaning it and noticed while racking snap caps thru it - that if I held the weapon level or tilted to the left, the slide stop would move and jam the pistol. Tilted to the right - it worked fine.

        Without a magazine in it, racking the slide made the slippage worse and once the slide stop just fell out.

        If I made a divot in the slide stop so the short plunger pin had more to grasp, would that solve the problem or do I need to buy a lot of replacement parts? None of my other 1911s exhibit this type of problem.

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        • #19
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57175

          Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
          today I was cleaning it and noticed while racking snap caps thru it - that if I held the weapon level or tilted to the left, the slide stop would move and jam the pistol. Tilted to the right - it worked fine.

          Without a magazine in it, racking the slide made the slippage worse and once the slide stop just fell out.

          If I made a divot in the slide stop so the short plunger pin had more to grasp, would that solve the problem or do I need to buy a lot of replacement parts? None of my other 1911s exhibit this type of problem.
          Check that you have the plungers in the correct direction.
          The front one is smaller than the rear one.
          The plunger has to bear against the slide stop to be able to hold it in place.
          Randall Rausch

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          • #20
            Rogerbutthead
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3857

            I took a look at how to remove the plunger pins and will wait 'till tomorrow to try that - don't want to take it that much apart while I am sleepy.

            Here is a pic where it is fine.


            Here is where I tilted it to the left and it came out a bit but is still working.


            I did not keep trying to get it stuck again, but will do that tomorrow if requested. Getting tired and am irritated at this pistol right now.

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            • #21
              Rogerbutthead
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 3857

              I took a last picture before I went to sleep.

              Others are calling it a Franken gun and that indeed it looks like the plunger pins are reversed - ? Not sure what I have to do to fix that - I am guessing the wrong parts were installed to make this gun function - ?

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              • #22
                Rogerbutthead
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 3857

                ah, it appears the plunger pins were put in correctly......

                Help me Mr. Wizard.

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                • #23
                  Rogerbutthead
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3857

                  Ordered a Midway replacement plunger pin set.

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                  • #24
                    mtenenhaus
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3416

                    In the process of our modifications you might also consider put a small depression on the face of the slide stop so it is better held by the plunger spring.

                    Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lzH-pPv8dc
                    Last edited by mtenenhaus; 12-15-2019, 4:47 AM.

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                    • #25
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57175

                      Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                      ah, it appears the plunger pins were put in correctly......

                      Help me Mr. Wizard.
                      Small plunger goes to towards the front.
                      Post a picture of the plungers fully seated into the plunger tube without the slide stop in place.
                      The front plunger should be about 1/16" further forward without the slide stop than it is with the slide stop in place.
                      If the front plunger does not have enough reach, it will not put force on the slide stop to hold the slide stop in place.

                      When you install the plungers into the plunger tube with the slide stop in place, how far back is the rear plunger sticking out blocking the installation of the safety selector before you compress the spring?
                      It should be sticking back about 1/4" before you start compressing it.
                      If it's not, then try stretching out the detent spring as a fix until the new one arrives.
                      Last edited by ar15barrels; 12-15-2019, 11:08 AM.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                      • #26
                        Rogerbutthead
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3857

                        Right now, the old plunger seems to stick out less than when I first removed it, could work on it but since I ordered a replacement part, I will wait until I get it to show the next picture.

                        It definitely does not appear to have enough length to put pressure on the slide stop. I will be looking at slide stops with tear drop divots too.

                        Thank you for the help.

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                        • #27
                          Rogerbutthead
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3857

                          Midway sent the part along with a 300 dollar optic via UPS. UPS to USPS on 12 24 19.

                          No package delivery. Emailed Midway today to inquire about it. If USPS lost it, I guess Midway has to send another package to me - ?

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                          • #28
                            Donny1
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 2344

                            Originally posted by hambam105
                            A few years back you weren't cool unless you installed some kind on non-standard multifaceted guide rod in your otherwise
                            serviceable 1911 for reasons unknown or long forgotten.

                            I suppose when we suffered enough with our 1911 improvement efforts we lowered our personal standards and retrofitted
                            the pistols back to factory specifications and agonized thru the disappointments that only a reliable 1911 can bring.

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                            • #29
                              redhemi
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2964

                              Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                              Midway sent the part along with a 300 dollar optic via UPS. UPS to USPS on 12 24 19.

                              No package delivery. Emailed Midway today to inquire about it. If USPS lost it, I guess Midway has to send another package to me - ?
                              Did you get a tracking # ?

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                              • #30
                                Rogerbutthead
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 3857

                                yes - on tracking number - halfway on delivery bar - at USPS 12 24 19

                                Guessing lost there.

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