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  • Mrmauserjerry
    Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 272

    Has anyone had bad experiences with the S&W revolver keylock?

    Has anyone had any bad experiences with the S&W revolver key lock? It is just hated because its a dumb idea and it doesn't look good? Or is there more too it?
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    ojisan
    Agent 86
    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2008
    • 11745

    There have been reports of the lock turning on by itself, generally in the aluminum or scandium framed lightweight models when shooting heavy loads.
    Most important for any gun is reliability, anything that may affect that reliability is frowned upon.

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      Mrmauserjerry
      Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 272

      Originally posted by ojisan
      There have been reports of the lock turning on by itself, generally in the aluminum or scandium framed lightweight models when shooting heavy loads.
      Most important for any gun is reliability, anything that may affect that reliability is frowned upon.
      i've heard similar claims. I am assuming there should be no issues with a Steel frame 686-6. But since the lock is there, there is a potential for it to lock up. I guess the question is "what is the likeliness of the gun locking itself?" I am assuming that the likeliness of that event even happening is to small to worry about. But never say never right? Well what would it take to lock it? Rolling over an IED on the road to Jalalabad?
      Last edited by Mrmauserjerry; 02-08-2019, 5:25 PM.

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        Jeepergeo
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 3506

        Generally, those stories start off, "I have a buddy/cousin/boyfriend that has the S&W key lock and it jams all the time, so that is why I only carry Glocks."

        Believe what you want on the Interweb. Or, know that S&W makes a fine firearm, lock or no lock.
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        • #5
          M76
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2014
          • 5954

          I don't think it's a concern, for aesthetic reasons many prefer the pre-locks

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            Mrmauserjerry
            Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 272

            Originally posted by Jeepergeo
            Generally, those stories start off, "I have a buddy/cousin/boyfriend that has the S&W key lock and it jams all the time, so that is why I only carry Glocks."

            Believe what you want on the Interweb. Or, know that S&W makes a fine firearm, lock or no lock.
            I agree. I just wanted to see if I could find a first hand account of this phenomena

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            • #7
              drdanno84
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              CGN Contributor
              • Dec 2005
              • 1411

              SW 629 .44 MAG MOUNTAIN GUN

              When firing full .44mag loads, my lock engaged a couple of times and therefore deactivated the hammer and trigger. I carry this gun when backpacking and hiking therefore must be reliable. I removed the lock and installed a plug made by Jennings Machine and tool.
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              • #8
                Barbarosa
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2166

                Never seen it happen and only read a few instances of it occurring in high power magnum loads. However, after taking the lock out of one of my guns and seeing how easily the lock turns, and how little there is to retain it in the locked position I am amazed it doesn't happen with regularity.

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                  ARDude
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2006
                  • 2723

                  The lock turned on during recoil with my 625PC. Using standard ball ammo. Luckily I had the key with me.

                  As soon as I got home I disengaged the internal lock. No problems now.
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                  • #10
                    sealocan
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 9940

                    A long time ago I asked the same question in a thread that I posted here.
                    Back then it seemed like of the people who had issues with them turning the lock into the safe position most were of the Magnum or larger caliber revolvers. ( I don't think I remember anyone with a 38 special or 22 Rimfire mentioned that it happened to them, at least in my thread.)

                    And I don't think Anyone likes them except maybe the lawyers at Smith & Wesson.
                    Last edited by sealocan; 02-08-2019, 7:03 PM.

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                    • #11
                      sumdood
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1079

                      Has anyone actually used the lock for its "intended" design?
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                      • #12
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                        • Sep 2010
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                        Originally posted by sealocan

                        And I don't think Anyone likes them except maybe the lawyers at Smith & Wesson.
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                        • #13
                          FalconLair
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                          • Apr 2012
                          • 3863

                          Originally posted by sumdood
                          Has anyone actually used the lock for its "intended" design?
                          you mean to help make you a victim, a statistic

                          i hope not
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                          • #14
                            DArBad
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                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2999

                            Originally posted by Mrmauserjerry
                            Has anyone had any bad experiences with the S&W revolver key lock? It is just hated because its a dumb idea and it doesn't look good? Or is there more too it?
                            I've read a few cases in the internet. But several acquaintances that owns the newer model SWs with the locks liked their guns, they even encourage me to buy one. When I mentioned about how those locks MIGHT cause problems, they just laugh it off.

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                            • #15
                              smittty
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 6246

                              Internet folklore!

                              Probably started by a Ruger fanboy.

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