Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Pump Action AR Pistol

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • ClayPigeon
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 87

    Pump Action AR Pistol

    Hi, I wanted to hear your opinion here on my next project about making a AR pistol with pump action upper.
    All reason I'm doing this is, I'm not a big fan of fixed mag and happy to trade off "semi-auto" function if I can get a regular mag release and detachable magazines, just like Troy PAR and easier operation than pulling charging handle every shot.

    * Buy a Franklin CA7
    * Build a 10.5" barreled PUMP upper (no gas system)
    * Attach a AFG or VFG on pump sleeve

    Since this won't be a semi auto and I'm wondering what category this is going to fall. My hope is as it's still under same action format with CA7(manual action), this doesn't call legality trouble. Barrel length will be different from original 7.5". So far my research on OAL and AOW on AR pistol doesn't to seem to have clear answer because my project's final shape is a non-semi AR pistol.


    Any feedback and opinion would be highly appreciated. Thanks
  • #2
    phdo
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2010
    • 3870

    Comment

    • #3
      ClayPigeon
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2015
      • 87

      Right now I got a plan to make a pump upper either 105" pistol upper for CA7 or regular 16" upper. Leaning to pump pistol upper because I have enough ARs and want bit different animal But just curious if pump AR pistol is good to go or not as I'm a newbie here in AR pistol arena..

      Comment

      • #4
        phdo
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2010
        • 3870

        Comment

        • #5
          tvfreakarms
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 2362

          What kind of lower would u need to get?

          "We live in a spaceship, dear."
          sigpic

          #ifyourhandtouchesmetalI swearbymyprettyfloralbonnetIwillendyou

          Comment

          • #6
            tvfreakarms
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 2362

            Having a pump at 15 would be fun

            "We live in a spaceship, dear."
            sigpic

            #ifyourhandtouchesmetalI swearbymyprettyfloralbonnetIwillendyou

            Comment

            • #7
              ClayPigeon
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2015
              • 87

              All I can get would be Franklin's CA7 as far as I know, at this point. I believe it must started as a On Roster AR Pistol.. so it'll be a bit pricey project but can't stop it..

              Comment

              • #8
                bob7122
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2010
                • 5090

                nice! im curious and want to build one now.
                Originally posted by 2761377
                man's greatest accomplishments have been achieved in the face of futility.
                it's a piss poor excuse to quit.
                PSN name= entwie_dumayla
                "I came into this world with someone else's blood on me and I don't mind leaving the same way..."
                ***looking to buy in great condition yugo sks***

                Comment

                • #9
                  223556
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3344

                  Troy made a pump action AR and it seemed pretty neat.
                  Was cool how the forend was integrated into their battle rail hand guard.
                  "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

                  "Between your faith and my Glock 9mm I'll take the Glock."
                  - Arnold Schawarzenegger (End of Days)

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    Quiet
                    retired Goon
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 30242

                    Originally posted by ClayPigeon
                    Hi, I wanted to hear your opinion here on my next project about making a AR pistol with pump action upper.
                    All reason I'm doing this is, I'm not a big fan of fixed mag and happy to trade off "semi-auto" function if I can get a regular mag release and detachable magazines, just like Troy PAR and easier operation than pulling charging handle every shot.

                    * Buy a Franklin CA7
                    * Build a 10.5" barreled PUMP upper (no gas system)
                    * Attach a AFG or VFG on pump sleeve

                    Since this won't be a semi auto and I'm wondering what category this is going to fall. My hope is as it's still under same action format with CA7(manual action), this doesn't call legality trouble. Barrel length will be different from original 7.5". So far my research on OAL and AOW on AR pistol doesn't to seem to have clear answer because my project's final shape is a non-semi AR pistol.


                    Any feedback and opinion would be highly appreciated. Thanks
                    It would still be a manually operated repeating pistol.
                    Only difference is that the manually operation is changed from a bolt-action to a pump-action.


                    During the Fed AWB, DPMS made a pump-action AR style pistol.

                    After the Fed AWB expired in 2004, DPMS discontinued all of their pump-action AR style firearms.
                    Previously made firearms and parts can occasionally be found on auction sites.


                    DPMS pump-action AR style pistol.
                    Last edited by Quiet; 02-02-2019, 2:26 PM.
                    sigpic

                    "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      LEAD LAUNCHER
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 1938

                      Originally posted by ClayPigeon
                      Hi, I wanted to hear your opinion here on my next project about making a AR pistol with pump action upper.
                      All reason I'm doing this is, I'm not a big fan of fixed mag and happy to trade off "semi-auto" function if I can get a regular mag release and detachable magazines, just like Troy PAR and easier operation than pulling charging handle every shot.

                      * Buy a Franklin CA7
                      * Build a 10.5" barreled PUMP upper (no gas system)
                      * Attach a AFG or VFG on pump sleeve

                      Since this won't be a semi auto and I'm wondering what category this is going to fall. My hope is as it's still under same action format with CA7(manual action), this doesn't call legality trouble. Barrel length will be different from original 7.5". So far my research on OAL and AOW on AR pistol doesn't to seem to have clear answer because my project's final shape is a non-semi AR pistol.


                      Any feedback and opinion would be highly appreciated. Thanks

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        ClayPigeon
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 87

                        Originally posted by Quiet
                        It would still be a manually operated repeating pistol.
                        Only difference is that the manually operation is changed from a bolt-action to a pump-action.


                        During the Fed AWB, DPMS made a pump-action AR style pistol.

                        After the Fed AWB expired in 2004, DPMS discontinued all of their pump-action AR style firearms.
                        Previously made firearms and parts can occasionally be found on auction sites.


                        DPMS pump-action AR style pistol.
                        Thanks Quiet for the information. Wow that's look neat. I guess it's free floating barrel as I see a long sleeve under the pump handle, which is great for pump action concept.

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          ClayPigeon
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 87

                          Thanks Lead Launcher for the feedback. At this point I think pump action upper for AR pistol is kind of "lighter" gray are. I thought this rout could be bit safer rather than convert CA7 to semi auto with fix mag and I prefer regular mag release even with giving up semi auto function. I guess i still need to be careful on vertical grip on pump sleeve like you said though. Not sure if AOL 26" would be the go or no go point for vertical grip or it doesn't matter anyway as this'll be sure non-semi manual pistol. I could go with Troy's battle rail just like their PAR rifle as well but a vertical grip would save my hand from mishap being my hand will so close to the muzzle.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            jimbo74
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 2923

                            To my understanding, it Can't have a vertical grip in front. Period. It is a pistol, that has a magazine outside the grip. Semi-auto or not, it would classify it as an assault pistol. An angled foregrip would be ok.

                            Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
                            "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                            CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                            ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              LEAD LAUNCHER
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 1938

                              Originally posted by jimbo74
                              To my understanding, it Can't have a vertical grip in front. Period. It is a pistol, that has a magazine outside the grip. Semi-auto or not, it would classify it as an assault pistol. An angled foregrip would be ok.

                              Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1